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Default 05-20-2011, 11:27 PM

Thanks T.
I wont ask your favourite question about an ETA as I know you'll delay me.


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Default 05-20-2011, 11:28 PM

Yeah we don't give ETAs. But this is a high priority project.

I love seeing the low washer fluid light chime on now to remind me to add more meth. This really is a nifty setup.


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Default 05-20-2011, 11:30 PM

Rub it in you bastard.
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Default 05-27-2011, 11:58 AM

My meth elbow is on the way. Any word? Need some high humidity testers?
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Default 05-27-2011, 12:06 PM

Been doing lots of R&D on it this week. I'll post an update when things are firmed up. But in carefully studying both meth flow and pump loading I'm seeing some reasonable inconsistencies with this pickup location. It's possible I'm being overly sensitive but since this location is completely new it merits an in depth study. I will say given how our competitor has configured their pickup I'm not surprised they only used 1/3 of a gallon of meth during a 20 minute track session.


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Default 05-27-2011, 12:20 PM

Im assuming you are getting a good amount of air in the line with this location T?? Some members are tapping the bottom of the WW tank and are having great results. Maybe that location would be a more reliable tap location? I know its not the "under hood plug in play" answer your looking for but it would make flow alot more consistent if in fact your getting too much air in the line.....

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Default 05-27-2011, 01:08 PM

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Been doing lots of R&D on it this week. I'll post an update when things are firmed up. But in carefully studying both meth flow and pump loading I'm seeing some reasonable inconsistencies with this pickup location. It's possible I'm being overly sensitive but since this location is completely new it merits an in depth study. I will say given how our competitor has configured their pickup I'm not surprised they only used 1/3 of a gallon of meth during a 20 minute track session.
Keeping the boost low helped them too in not using meth much. I was about to suggest to start flowing at 14psi and keeping the boost at 13psi max since that would have resulted in even less meth consumption...
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Default 05-27-2011, 01:20 PM

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Keeping the boost low helped them too in not using meth much. I was about to suggest to start flowing at 14psi and keeping the boost at 13psi max since that would have resulted in even less meth consumption...
Then meth would never spray.


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Default 05-27-2011, 01:30 PM

Exactly. A good solution for those who want to save meth
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Keeping the boost low helped them too in not using meth much. I was about to suggest to start flowing at 14psi and keeping the boost at 13psi max since that would have resulted in even less meth consumption...


I find it funny that when people talk about conserving meth they don't realize they are just using more gasoline instead. Closed loop fueling FTW.


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Default 05-27-2011, 02:18 PM

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Exactly. A good solution for those who want to save meth
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I find it funny that when people talk about conserving meth they don't realize they are just using more gasoline instead. Closed loop fueling FTW.
I dont know why you would buy a meth kit if you dont want to use it. Less meth = less power.


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Default 05-27-2011, 04:49 PM

couldn't you just use a male to male fitting and put it were the head light washer pump would go. just plug it into the grommet that holds the pump. then put a check valve near the pick up? seems like that would be much less restricted then sucking it threw the pump.

but would the pump have enough power to pull the meth out of there and re-prime should you run it dry?


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couldn't you just use a male to male fitting and put it were the head light washer pump would go. just plug it into the grommet that holds the pump. then put a check valve near the pick up? seems like that would be much less restricted then sucking it threw the pump.

but would the pump have enough power to pull the meth out of there and re-prime should you run it dry?
I haven't really looked in to the option as the line isn't easy to reach in our 135i. I would be surprised if the headlights used a separate pump though. Will need to check real oem later.


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I haven't really looked in to the option as the line isn't easy to reach in our 135i. I would be surprised if the headlights used a separate pump though. Will need to check real oem later.
Headlight uses the same pump. I worked this out when I tapped the lines to run my Intercooler water spray from the windscreen washer bottle.


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Default 05-28-2011, 04:42 AM

headlights use a different pump...i have replaced the grommets on slimmed up washer tanks. its not easy to get to but neither is running a line from your trunk to the front of your car.

the only down side to using that pump location is it is slightly higher than the washer pump and i am not sure if the level light will come on b4 it runs out of meth from the head light spot.

i have a lift, tools and time...if you need a tester

btw to get the washer pump out you have to remove the wheel, remove the rear part of the wheel liner and the one 10mm bolt holding the tank in. then slide it out of the fender far enough to get to the pumps.


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Default 05-28-2011, 04:45 AM

also the pump for the headlights is much bigger than washer pump it is number 4 on the picture. as it has to push out the poppers to spray the headlights. the little pump would never be able to spray the windshield and still have enough pressure and flow to do the headlights.



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Default 05-28-2011, 09:36 AM

So where is the headlight motor feed from? Are there any outlets on the tank aside from #6 above?


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Default 05-28-2011, 10:43 PM

Hey guys I am old!! school so I am confused on why you mix meth with water? I do not have a meth kit yet but why would you ever want water in the combustion camber?
I would think that would boost the pressure but why not use just 100 methanol?
If you guys get a kit for washer fluid can I'm in but just do not understand why mix meth with water? That would cause a big variation in the compression because alcohol and water do not mix very well. Maybe I just stupid but it seams that straight meth would be much more consistent?
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Default 05-28-2011, 10:54 PM

Water absorbs more heat and helps keep EGT in check. And makes the mix a little less flammable and safer for everyday use.


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Default 05-28-2011, 10:58 PM

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Water absorbs more heat and helps keep EGT in check. And makes the mix a little less flammable and safer for everyday use.
What mix do you normally use? I am trying to find the perfect mix for this extreme summer heat.


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Default 05-28-2011, 11:01 PM

There is no perfect mix. Just depends on what you are trying to do. For max power with stock turbos, close to 100% meth is preferred. But it's not safe from a fire perspective. For daily driving I normally run 70/30. Lately I got lazy and ordered 12 gallons of "boost juice" so just using that now. It's 49/51.


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Default 05-28-2011, 11:02 PM

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There is no perfect mix. Just depends on what you are trying to do. For max power with stock turbos, close to 100% meth is preferred. But it's not safe from a fire perspective. For daily driving I normally run 70/30. Lately I got lazy and ordered 12 gallons of "boost juice" so just using that now. It's 49/51.
Okay, thats what I plan on, 70/30. I got lucky, a track by my house sells M-1 for $4.


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Default 05-29-2011, 04:36 AM

the head light washer is just a little higher than the windshield washer pump. there are up to 3 slots open on the tank for the US only 2 will be used as we don't have a rear window washer. you could always drill the open slot and put a washer pump rubber grommet in it then a male to male barb.


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