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Default Stinger Burn Out Switch DIY - 06-30-2019, 10:30 AM

The Burger burn out switch is a switch to cut off/interrupt the brake pedal signal to the ECU. Cutting this signal to the ECU only prevents the ECU from shutting down power when riding the brake and gas at the same time like when when doing burn outs, brake boosting to build boost during launches, etc. Brake boosting will replace your factory launch mode. Since the ABS, shifter, brake light, and all other modules continue to see the brake pedal signal all other systems on the vehicle operate normally.

We've been having a lot of fun testing the last few days and I guarantee Stinger track records will be broken with this! So far no ill effects have been observed but like any new DIY make this modification at your own risk and be on the lookout for any unknown bugs/side effects. It will prevent auto start/stop from engaging so should only be enabled during competition racing use purposes at sanctioned race tracks.

We've found the torque converter can be brake boosted up to around 3000rpm producing 10psi+ at the launch for those with the traction to take advantage of it! We've seen 60' times in the low 1.6s range compared to the 1.8s range we were all stuck at previously! The Burger switch works!


The install is fairly easy with basic electrical skills:

1) To access the wire lock doors and wait 5 min for ECU to go to sleep.

2) Disconnect the driver side ECU connector using the release handle and the unravel the various electrical tape holding the sleeving on. You'll be reusing the same electrical tape when you put it back together so try to damage it as little as possible.

3) Locate and cut the brake signal wire, green wire with a black stripe, on the driver side ECU connector. We've seen a few cars with multiple green wires with black stripe. Be sure to find the one that is running to spot #83 on the connector, it's the last wire in it's row so relatively easy to spot in there without taking the connector apart. It's on the bottom part of the wiring loom.

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4) Route the cut wire through an electrical on/off switch. I soldered the wires together but you could also use wire nuts or just twist and tape.

5) Place back the electrical tape covering, put it all back together, and then place the switch wherever you'd like. If you use black wire the switch is pretty stealthy and looks just like an ignition cut off switch. I left it peaking out of the ECU area so I can easily access it at the track.

6) This is the most important step! Any new track records set using the burn out switch must be accompanied by a shout-out to Burger and the JB4 for making this all possible!

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Customer track log testing the Burger switch with an AWD. Brake boosting to 3000 rpm on his way to a 1.65 60'!



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Default 06-30-2019, 10:51 AM

Wow...impressive.

So if you do launch control...this allows RPM’s to climb to 3k or higher?


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Default 06-30-2019, 10:53 AM

I haven't tried it with launch mode yet but I presume it won't engage when the switch is flipped. This is for brake boosting which is BETTER than launch mode.


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Default 06-30-2019, 11:25 AM

Sorry for being dumb...what is brake boosting?

Isn’t it LC but with all the nannies still on?


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Pressing brake pedal and gas at the same time, and building boost, for launching under boost. Our "launch mode" is a more limited version of this designed help build boost while limiting the torque applied to the drive train in the process. This switch basically removes the nanny.


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Default 06-30-2019, 12:39 PM

Way to Go Terry !.......Wash
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Default 06-30-2019, 02:07 PM

Where does the brake wire connect to? Is this accessible in the cabin (above brake pedal, etc) instead of in the engine bay?

Also, do the brake lights still work when the switch is filpped?

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Default 06-30-2019, 03:38 PM

Brake lights work.

The wire has to be cut at the ECU signal, you do not want to block the brake signal from the other modules. I don't know if that ECU wire extends alone from the brake pedal area. Probably but I didn't try to identify that. Maybe someone can find a diagram and find a spot? But the ECU wires are really easy to reach and it's a great spot for a stealthy switch.


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Default 06-30-2019, 05:44 PM

Does this affect ONLY launching, or traction control / stability control / etc as well? I.e. will the "save your butt" systems know you're braking, or think you're not braking and get totally confused in an emergency situation?

I'm asking for a "launch for fun at a stoplight", but don't die when need emergency stability / traction control due to someone else's stupidity on the road in front of you scenario.. I don't get to the actual track much..
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Default 06-30-2019, 05:51 PM

Terry - this implementation has no affect on the gear selection or starting the car. Those systems see the brake when it is depressed?
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No issues observed.


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Does this affect ONLY launching, or traction control / stability control / etc as well? I.e. will the "save your butt" systems know you're braking, or think you're not braking and get totally confused in an emergency situation?

I'm asking for a "launch for fun at a stoplight", but don't die when need emergency stability / traction control due to someone else's stupidity on the road in front of you scenario.. I don't get to the actual track much..
Don't know. But the abs and other systems take in their own brake signal which remains unaffected. No issues observed so far.


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Great... Tks... this will be a game changer for the ability to launch the car.


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Does this work on the AWD model and what affect will it have ?
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Default 07-01-2019, 07:43 AM

Great work Terry! I'm surprised you actually went this far LOL. 1 tire fire coming right up!


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Does this work on the AWD model and what affect will it have ?
Yes, and it lets you brake boost the crap out of the car for harder launches.


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Great work Terry! I'm surprised you actually went this far LOL. 1 tire fire coming right up!
Time to get some ET Streets for it!


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Default 07-01-2019, 09:22 AM

Great work Terry.

Can't wait to see an implementation of this with the JB4.
Perhaps adding it to one of the I/Os on the box and have it controlled via the APP as a burn out ON/OFF Mode.
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You don't think the current Nt555 will work that's on the Enkeis?


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Great work Terry.

Can't wait to see an implementation of this with the JB4.
Perhaps adding it to one of the I/Os on the box and have it controlled via the APP as a burn out ON/OFF Mode.
Would be even cooler if we can hold a button on the steering wheel to activate it. I don't want to get the app out and connect it every time I want to burnout
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You don't think the current Nt555 will work that's on the Enkeis?
No it spins the crap out of those as-is. Needs some real tires.

Looking around only 18" tire I can find is a 245/40/18 Hoosier QTP. Not my favorite racing tire and not an ideal size, but height is more or less right and it will fit a 9.5" wide rim.

245/40-18 Hoosier Quick Time Dot Street Dr2 Pro Drag Radial Tire HO 17340 Et for sale online | eBay


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No it spins the crap out of those as-is. Needs some real tires.

Looking around only 18" tire I can find is a 245/40/18 Hoosier QTP. Not my favorite racing tire and not an ideal size, but height is more or less right and it will fit a 9.5" wide rim.

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Would be even cooler if we can hold a button on the steering wheel to activate it. I don't want to get the app out and connect it every time I want to burnout
That would be awesome, while that is a possible solution, it requires integration with the factory electronics and the ability to change its settings, the JB4 has no control over the factory systems or electronics, YET!

Maybe in a not so distant future?....Terry?
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No it spins the crap out of those as-is. Needs some real tires.

Looking around only 18" tire I can find is a 245/40/18 Hoosier QTP. Not my favorite racing tire and not an ideal size, but height is more or less right and it will fit a 9.5" wide rim.

245/40-18 Hoosier Quick Time Dot Street Dr2 Pro Drag Radial Tire HO 17340 Et for sale online | eBay
Just to let you know u can go with a 255 40 18 tire with no problem that's what I have on mine right now
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That would be awesome, while that is a possible solution, it requires integration with the factory electronics and the ability to change its settings, the JB4 has no control over the factory systems or electronics, YET!

Maybe in a not so distant future?....Terry?
It's something we offer on other platforms and something we're working towards!


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