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Default New silicone inlets. Time consumption? - 11-24-2015, 05:30 AM

How manny hours does it take a mechanic to install a pair of silicone inlets? VTT or RB?

My car is 335I aut. with Wagner Evo 2 IC.


Just had my mechanic on the phone, and he is not happy. Saying that there is almost no room because of the intercooler's ***** ?

What's your experience?

Update. 8.12.2015
The Shop used 16.5 hours on the installation work.


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Default 11-24-2015, 05:46 AM

Interesting question since I'm planning the same setup in the future (but with MMP High Flow Inlets or VRSF ones ).


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Default 11-24-2015, 05:58 AM

Your going to be quoted 6-8 hrs labor pending were you go but that's the norm.
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Default 11-24-2015, 06:13 AM

I don't understand why the intercooler ***** would cause an issue?


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Default 11-24-2015, 06:34 AM

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How manny hours does it take a mechanic to install a pair of silicone inlets? VTT or RB?

My car is 335I aut. with Wagner Evo 2 IC.


Just had my mechanic on the phone, and he is not happy. Saying that there is almost no room because of the intercooler's ***** ?

What's your experience?
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I don't understand why the intercooler ***** would cause an issue?
Yea that makes no sense. Tell him to stop being a bitch, cut out the stock *****, and ram these in there!


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Default 11-24-2015, 08:03 AM

Remove fan and vacuum canisters, then cut out front inlet. Or he will have to disconnect intercooler up pipe and charge pipe to remove front inlet without cutting.
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Default 11-24-2015, 09:31 AM

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Remove fan and vacuum canisters, then cut out front inlet. Or he will have to disconnect intercooler up pipe and charge pipe to remove front inlet without cutting.
Just been out there.
It was exactly what he had done ( disconnected intercooler up pipe and chargepipe.)
But there was plenty of room in the front, and it is not near the intercooler pipe at all..

It was the boss at the shop who called me.
Maybe he was just trying to prepare me for the size of the bill. Time will tell..


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Default 11-24-2015, 10:50 AM

Front will take 1-2 hours, tops. Rear 2-4 hours because you need to remove the DP's mostly.


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Default 11-24-2015, 12:33 PM

I dont know about stock style inlets but I did my VRSF in about 2 hours including removing the DP's and adjusting and all that. Its really not a big job?
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I dont know about stock style inlets but I did my VRSF in about 2 hours including removing the DP's and adjusting and all that. Its really not a big job?
That's what I was wondering too..if you are cutting out the stock inlets I don't see what could take any time?


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Default 11-24-2015, 02:53 PM

I just put my RB inlets in. Time consuming. Looks like you might be able to leave ********* in and still be able to hacksaw out the rear inlet. With that said, *** don't take too long so removing them isn't bad either but does add more time. I removed the rear cback hanger for more clearance for a hacksaw. Cut out front to make it easier. The rear brackets take some time. The one holding the inlet on and the inlet retaining bracket. At walmart (here, last one) they had these ratcheting mini torx wrench that works perfect behind there. You want to remove all of the stuff lining the side of the engine (boost solenoid, etc) so you can fit your hand along the side of the engine back there and then your right arm and hand over the engine and around the back. It's tricky but doable.

All of these little things take time basically. 1-2 days by yourself probably.

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Default 11-24-2015, 03:35 PM

I got the front inlet on my friends e90 RWD in less than 20 minutes. If you have to cut front inlet, you might wanna leave the job to someone else. I also removed intake manifold to access the rear inlet. I was able to fully remove inlet off turbo and position it so I could cut it with Sawzall. Took two nights only because we did the oil filter housing gasket too and I left the gaskets at work


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Default 11-24-2015, 06:29 PM

Done the install with rb inlets.

Intercooler ***** have nothing to do with it.
You only need to remove one dp.
You don't need to remove the fan.
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Default 11-25-2015, 10:02 AM

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Done the install with rb inlets.

Intercooler ***** have nothing to do with it.
You only need to remove one dp.
You don't need to remove the fan.

How long time did you use?
Guess RB is almost same size and shape.


My isn't done yet.. So far. 13 hours + been used

He said that they are squeezed against the firewall and he is worried that they rubbing against the sharp edges of the cylinder head.


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Default 11-25-2015, 10:22 AM

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How long time did you use?
Guess RB is almost same size and shape.


My isn't done yet.. So far. 13 hours + been used

He said that they are squeezed against the firewall and he is worried that they rubbing against the sharp edges of the cylinder head.
i dont think the guy really understood what he is doing. the rear inlet did take me a while. but i think he might be being overly critical of its placement. guys have done this on jack stands in less time..


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Default 11-25-2015, 10:39 AM

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How long time did you use?
Guess RB is almost same size and shape.


My isn't done yet.. So far. 13 hours + been used

He said that they are squeezed against the firewall and he is worried that they rubbing against the sharp edges of the cylinder head.
Ouch, I hope they don't charge you for all 13. a competent shop that has a decent understanding of the n54 and or has been explained things they might need to do to accomplish the install should be able to do it in 1/2 the time easy. maybe they were wasting time trying to get the old ones out the wrong way or not removing enough stuff to gain access and wasting time that way.

when working on cars you have to find a happy medium between removing enough stuff to gain access and dealing with things that are easier to work around then remove.

If they went in to it without knowing they would need to remove the ***, boost silnoids, rad fan, and cut out rear inlet and have a small ratchet to remove the rear mounting bracket, then yeah I see how they could have wasted a lot of time.

I and a lot of others have been watching and reading for hours about inlets so, I am sure we probably understand a bit more of what needs to be removed and possible issues with the install, more then just going along and getting blind sided by them like a shop may.
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Just installed mine in 1M, little extra difficult due to extra radiator and piping. Took 6 hours being meticulous, cut rear inlet removed front whole.
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Default 12-06-2015, 08:19 AM

My mechanic, did the front in less than an hour..rear took nearly 6 hours...this was the first one he had done. He said going forward they would quote 6 hour for the job.
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How long time did you use?
Guess RB is almost same size and shape.


My isn't done yet.. So far. 13 hours + been used

He said that they are squeezed against the firewall and he is worried that they rubbing against the sharp edges of the cylinder head.
AndersS,

Sorry it is taking your guy so long installing our RB inlets. This has been the worst feedback thus far, as we have had feedback suggesting anywhere between 4 and 8 hours (typically around 6).

As for the squeeze, I understand what they mean- this is precisely why I designed our inlets with the 1.75" tube to not interfere (or be squeezed) through the area. Well that and that it has a much better connection to the turbo snout. But anyway as one can imagine, the bigger the tube is in that area the worse the squish. So the RB inlets you have are actually designed to have the most ideal fitment through that area, to minimize (or remove altogether) the excessive squish that could otherwise be encountered..

Anyway hope your installer gets it figured out, but all feedback thus far outside of your situation seems right on point.

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Default 12-06-2015, 01:33 PM

I just installed my rb inlets yesterday and took about 5-6 hours iv done 2 install one on mine and my budddies 335. Its honestly time consuming but very easy and hands on.
Unless you dont know much or havent taken stuff apart. Just my .02.
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Default 12-08-2015, 02:55 PM

Hi Rob.

It is not RB inlets but VTT. Also 1,75" tube.
Sorry the misconception. I just took for granted that they have very similar structure as RBs and about the same challenges with the mounting process


I paid for 16.5 hours in labor.

Spending almost 4 times as much money at installation as the cost for the inlets alone.

I learned a lesson: Next time,I have to arrange a fixed Price before..

But most important is that the car runs great with the optional power..




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AndersS,

Sorry it is taking your guy so long installing our RB inlets. This has been the worst feedback thus far, as we have had feedback suggesting anywhere between 4 and 8 hours (typically around 6).

As for the squeeze, I understand what they mean- this is precisely why I designed our inlets with the 1.75" tube to not interfere (or be squeezed) through the area. Well that and that it has a much better connection to the turbo snout. But anyway as one can imagine, the bigger the tube is in that area the worse the squish. So the RB inlets you have are actually designed to have the most ideal fitment through that area, to minimize (or remove altogether) the excessive squish that could otherwise be encountered..

Anyway hope your installer gets it figured out, but all feedback thus far outside of your situation seems right on point.

Rob


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Default 12-08-2015, 03:12 PM

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Hi Rob.

It is not RB inlets but VTT. Also 1,75" tube.
Sorry the misconception. I just took for granted that they have very similar structure as RBs and about the same challenges with the mounting process


I paid for 16.5 hours in labor.

Spending almost 4 times as much money at installation as the cost for the inlets alone.

I learned a lesson: Next time,I have to arrange a fixed Price before..

But most important is that the car runs great with the optional power..
This makes much more sense now. As stated prior (and found by your shop) is that 2" tubes through the squish area is not something that one would come natural to recommend. Unfortunately the 1.75" ends on the VTT units do not help make way through the squish either area, as the rear turbo squish area is further upstream than only simply the end. Your shop simply was pointing out to you what they felt was not ideal with the 2" hose being too large for that area.

Either way glad you got it worked out, but that amount of labor certainly could've installed some turbos at the same time and still with less cost.

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It took me 4 hours to do alone, then again.. I'm a mechanic and have many years of knowledge lol
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It took me 4 hours to do alone, then again.. I'm a mechanic and have many years of knowledge lol
thm8d, do you have the RB inlets?


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thm8d, do you have the RB inlets?

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