N54Tech.com - International Turbo Racing Discussion
(#26)
Old
lazer's Avatar
lazer lazer is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 94
Join Date: Sep 2015
Car: 135i n55
Default 01-11-2016, 09:57 AM

With tbi or pi ..does i need to always run e85 ?i dont have have access everyday so can i run only 91 or 93 and "desactivate" it?
Reply With Quote
(#27)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-11-2016, 10:35 AM

If you're switching back and forth, yes you'd need to disable TBI or PI, otherwise you'll run rich. No reason to run either of them without E85...especially on the N55.



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#28)
Old
lazer's Avatar
lazer lazer is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 94
Join Date: Sep 2015
Car: 135i n55
Default 01-11-2016, 10:40 AM

I suppose i can keep map 6 with tbi/pi on and swirhching map 2 or 5 on 91/93 with system off
Reply With Quote
(#29)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-11-2016, 10:44 AM

Correct...with E85 in the tank and TBI/PI activated you'll want to run map 6 or 7.

We DD our N55 with TBI and E60 on map 7 at about 490whp. We save Map 6 for kill mode.

On 91, I'd stick to map 1 see how logs look on 93 with map 2.



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#30)
Old
lazer's Avatar
lazer lazer is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 94
Join Date: Sep 2015
Car: 135i n55
Default 01-11-2016, 11:02 AM

Why not run map 6 if youre running already e60 on map 7? E100 on 6?
Reply With Quote
(#31)
Old
rwalker rwalker is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 205
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default 01-11-2016, 11:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!
If you're switching back and forth, yes you'd need to disable TBI or PI, otherwise you'll run rich. No reason to run either of them without E85...especially on the N55.
E85 or race gas, right?
Reply With Quote
(#32)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-11-2016, 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazer
Why not run map 6 if youre running already e60 on map 7? E100 on 6?
I'm not sure if you were asking us...but if you were it's because we target 20psi on map 7 and 23psi on map 6 for an extra 50 ponies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwalker
E85 or race gas, right?
No, race gas doesn't require the additional volume E85 does.



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#33)
Old
NJjavi's Avatar
NJjavi NJjavi is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 22
Join Date: Jan 2016
Car: 2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | jB4 | Enzo Performance tuned |
Default 01-15-2016, 12:44 PM

Bump for a group buy


2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | DV+ upgrade | custom inlet | BMS meth injection | FBO w/ custom intake | M performance exhaust| jB4 boost/meth control | Stage 2 Lpfp
Reply With Quote
(#34)
Old
BostonBeemah's Avatar
BostonBeemah BostonBeemah is offline
Senior Member
 
Posts: 831
Join Date: Sep 2011
Car: AW 135i
Default 01-15-2016, 01:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJjavi
Bump for a group buy
I like where your going with this. Count me in!


2010 AW/BLK 135i VM 6465 Single Turbo, JB4 + MHD, VRSF CP & Tial, Big Tom, Fuel-It PI + Stage 3 + Return + Ethanol Sensor, BMW PE, MFactory LSD & Axles, Spec 3+ & MFactory SMFW, RB External PCV
Best stock turbo 12.5 @ 19.46 spinning all the way down
RIP 2008 AW/BL 135i
Reply With Quote
(#35)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-16-2016, 03:51 PM

I'm sorry but we don't do group buys.

Most people want immediate gratification when they part with their money and we certainly understand that. Consequently we try to keep all of our products in stock and fill orders as they are received. Doing group buys is a logistical nightmare for a small company and while they do have their place, that is not part of our business model.

Hope you understand.

Thanks,
Steve



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#36)
Old
Anytyme's Avatar
Anytyme Anytyme is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 330
Join Date: Sep 2015
Car: 2011 335I
Default 01-16-2016, 06:23 PM

I agree when I spend my money I want it now lol. Received my kit on Friday installing tomorrow and Monday great quality looking parts. I tried uploading pics but too large. I'm including a link to my PI Platinum KiT and stage 3 Fuel Pump.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5...2lkRGNScS01ZE0


N55 World Record 650whp 571tq
2011 N55 335I, VM Top Mount Kit, PTE 6266 Gen 2, JB4 AMS Fmic, ER CP with BOV, FuelIt Stg3 LPFP, , PI Platinum Kit.
Reply With Quote
(#37)
Old
obriennathaniel's Avatar
obriennathaniel obriennathaniel is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 171
Join Date: May 2014
Car: F30 335i
Default 01-18-2016, 02:03 AM

Sub'd! Hopefully I have my PI up and running by Tuesday on my F30


CG Precision VS-1 Exhaust\DR-1 | PS2 Turbo\Inlet | PDU PI w/Fuel-it platinum kit & E sensor | GFB DV+ Diverter Valve | JB4/ACF Performance w/BM3 | Full E85 | ATM FMIC | ER Chargepipe Inlet/Outlet | AFE Intake | BC Coilovers | PSS 255/40-275/35 Velos Designwerks S3 two piece 19x9/19x10 | Osram Xenarc | LED retro | AWRON digital AC gauge|
Reply With Quote
(#38)
Old
Anytyme's Avatar
Anytyme Anytyme is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 330
Join Date: Sep 2015
Car: 2011 335I
Default 01-19-2016, 09:30 AM

Whats the current N55 E platform record?


N55 World Record 650whp 571tq
2011 N55 335I, VM Top Mount Kit, PTE 6266 Gen 2, JB4 AMS Fmic, ER CP with BOV, FuelIt Stg3 LPFP, , PI Platinum Kit.
Reply With Quote
(#39)
Old
NJjavi's Avatar
NJjavi NJjavi is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 22
Join Date: Jan 2016
Car: 2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | jB4 | Enzo Performance tuned |
Default 01-19-2016, 09:49 AM

I honestly feel and I may be wrong, that there isn't exactly the biggest market for this product, for this engine, with the exception of a few guys. A group buy (5 buys nothing crazy) can help launch the product and open the market up a little bit with the help of a few "Guinea Pigs". Totally understand though.


2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | DV+ upgrade | custom inlet | BMS meth injection | FBO w/ custom intake | M performance exhaust| jB4 boost/meth control | Stage 2 Lpfp
Reply With Quote
(#40)
Old
BostonBeemah's Avatar
BostonBeemah BostonBeemah is offline
Senior Member
 
Posts: 831
Join Date: Sep 2011
Car: AW 135i
Default 01-19-2016, 10:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJjavi
I honestly feel and I may be wrong, that there isn't exactly the biggest market for this product, for this engine, with the exception of a few guys. A group buy (5 buys nothing crazy) can help launch the product and open the market up a little bit with the help of a few "Guinea Pigs". Totally understand though.
As much as I would love to see a GB, at this point I think its too late as a few people have already bought it and they wouldn't be too happy if other get it cheaper.


2010 AW/BLK 135i VM 6465 Single Turbo, JB4 + MHD, VRSF CP & Tial, Big Tom, Fuel-It PI + Stage 3 + Return + Ethanol Sensor, BMW PE, MFactory LSD & Axles, Spec 3+ & MFactory SMFW, RB External PCV
Best stock turbo 12.5 @ 19.46 spinning all the way down
RIP 2008 AW/BL 135i
Reply With Quote
(#41)
Old
NJjavi's Avatar
NJjavi NJjavi is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 22
Join Date: Jan 2016
Car: 2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | jB4 | Enzo Performance tuned |
Default 01-19-2016, 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBeemah
As much as I would love to see a GB, at this point I think its too late as a few people have already bought it and they wouldn't be too happy if other get it cheaper.
So the Guinea Pigs are in full effect I'm not mad lol.
I'll be waiting to see results then which eventually be put out there with different fuels, boost levels etc and I'll go from there


2015 f30 335 xDrive | Pure Stage 2 | DV+ upgrade | custom inlet | BMS meth injection | FBO w/ custom intake | M performance exhaust| jB4 boost/meth control | Stage 2 Lpfp
Reply With Quote
(#42)
Old
Peter @ Pure's Avatar
Peter @ Pure Peter @ Pure is offline
Demigod
 
Posts: 1,683
Join Date: Aug 2013
Car: F20 M135i
Default 01-19-2016, 11:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anytyme
Whats the current N55 E platform record?
520-540ish whp I guess?


F21 M140i - 100-200: 8.1
Audi TTRS - 100-200: 4.47 60-130: 5.16
F80 M3 - 100-200: 4.45, 60-130: 5.1
F20 M135i (sold) - 100-200: 6.26 , 60-130: 7.4
peter@pureturbos.eu
peter@pureturbos.com
peter@protuningfreaks.com
pureturbos.eu
Reply With Quote
(#43)
Old
BostonBeemah's Avatar
BostonBeemah BostonBeemah is offline
Senior Member
 
Posts: 831
Join Date: Sep 2011
Car: AW 135i
Default 01-19-2016, 02:46 PM

Pretty sure they made like 600+ wheel on an f30

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...600-horsepower


2010 AW/BLK 135i VM 6465 Single Turbo, JB4 + MHD, VRSF CP & Tial, Big Tom, Fuel-It PI + Stage 3 + Return + Ethanol Sensor, BMW PE, MFactory LSD & Axles, Spec 3+ & MFactory SMFW, RB External PCV
Best stock turbo 12.5 @ 19.46 spinning all the way down
RIP 2008 AW/BL 135i
Reply With Quote
(#44)
Old
M-terkait's Avatar
M-terkait M-terkait is offline
M-Terkait
 
Posts: 284
Join Date: Dec 2013
Car: F30 335i
Default 01-19-2016, 04:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonBeemah
Pretty sure they made like 600+ wheel on an f30

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...600-horsepower
600hp stock fuel pump



N55 - Doc race 6266.
Reply With Quote
(#45)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-19-2016, 05:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJjavi
I honestly feel and I may be wrong, that there isn't exactly the biggest market for this product, for this engine, with the exception of a few guys. A group buy (5 buys nothing crazy) can help launch the product and open the market up a little bit with the help of a few "Guinea Pigs". Totally understand though.
I completely understand where you're coming from, however this port injection kit isn't just for the N55 E-Series, it's for the N54 and N55 E-Series as well as the N55 F-Series.

We feel we put together a nice kit with a TON of options and priced it fairly. We hope you think so to and would love your business but we're going to remain consistent and avoid doing group buys.

Hope you understand.

Thanks,
Steve



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#46)
Old
Zel335 Zel335 is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 14
Join Date: Aug 2015
Car: 2012 BMW 335i F30
Default 01-19-2016, 05:46 PM

Do you have a break down of what each kit is designed for? So some details to why you would buy the TBI or why you would buy the Port version. I'm wondering if there is any reason for a FBO to pick one or the other up. Of course the function of the fuel going over the valves would almost be reason enough to buy one of the options.
Reply With Quote
(#47)
Old
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!'s Avatar
Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! is offline
Tuner
 
Posts: 18,430
Join Date: Oct 2012
Car: 135i
Default 01-19-2016, 08:38 PM

Here's a breakdown of where things stand thus far for the N55.

Throttlebody Injection is for those customers that are making approx. 450 to 550whp on moderate to high mixes of ethanol. The F-series isn't able to run quite as much ethanol due to the weaker HPFP. TBI is either on or off, there is no PWM control at this time so you must be able to make use of the fuel being injected and it can not be used for straight pump gas at this time. To our knowledge there is nobody making enough power on pump gas to make use of the extra fuel capacity.

Port Injection is more flexible as we do have PWM control and ultimately it will support more power as the platform progresses. Again there is really no reason to run port injection on pump fuel.

If you have questions specific to your application, please email us. Steve@Fuel-It.com



Click on our banner to visit our website!
Video of our Stage 2 LPFP upgrade installation.

BMS products labeled for use only in competition racing vehicles may only be used on competition racing vehicles operated exclusively on a closed course in conjunction with a sanctioned racing event, in accordance with all federal and state laws, and may never be operated on public roads/highways.
Reply With Quote
(#48)
Old
Peter @ Pure's Avatar
Peter @ Pure Peter @ Pure is offline
Demigod
 
Posts: 1,683
Join Date: Aug 2013
Car: F20 M135i
Default 01-19-2016, 11:11 PM

I can add that if you are not running enough power or a low power map with TBI active the car will run rich and misfire. Just up the boost or e mix and its all good.

I made a switch under steering rack to turn the TBI system on and off.


F21 M140i - 100-200: 8.1
Audi TTRS - 100-200: 4.47 60-130: 5.16
F80 M3 - 100-200: 4.45, 60-130: 5.1
F20 M135i (sold) - 100-200: 6.26 , 60-130: 7.4
peter@pureturbos.eu
peter@pureturbos.com
peter@protuningfreaks.com
pureturbos.eu

Last edited by Peter @ Pure; 01-20-2016 at 01:04 AM..
Reply With Quote
(#49)
Old
n54thism4 n54thism4 is offline
New Member
 
Posts: 11
Join Date: Jan 2016
Car: m4
Default 01-19-2016, 11:50 PM

are you going to make one for us s55m3 m4 guys
Reply With Quote
(#50)
Old
obriennathaniel's Avatar
obriennathaniel obriennathaniel is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 171
Join Date: May 2014
Car: F30 335i
Default 01-20-2016, 01:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It!
Here's a breakdown of where things stand thus far for the N55.

Throttlebody Injection is for those customers that are making approx. 450 to 550whp on moderate to high mixes of ethanol. The F-series isn't able to run quite as much ethanol due to the weaker HPFP. TBI is either on or off, there is no PWM control at this time so you must be able to make use of the fuel being injected and it can not be used for straight pump gas at this time. To our knowledge there is nobody making enough power on pump gas to make use of the extra fuel capacity.

Port Injection is more flexible as we do have PWM control and ultimately it will support more power as the platform progresses. Again there is really no reason to run port injection on pump fuel.

If you have questions specific to your application, please email us. Steve@Fuel-It.com
PWM control how?


CG Precision VS-1 Exhaust\DR-1 | PS2 Turbo\Inlet | PDU PI w/Fuel-it platinum kit & E sensor | GFB DV+ Diverter Valve | JB4/ACF Performance w/BM3 | Full E85 | ATM FMIC | ER Chargepipe Inlet/Outlet | AFE Intake | BC Coilovers | PSS 255/40-275/35 Velos Designwerks S3 two piece 19x9/19x10 | Osram Xenarc | LED retro | AWRON digital AC gauge|
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright 2007 - 2018, N54tech.com