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Default 08-21-2015, 07:34 PM

Satisfied with the update Terry! Changed FuD to 98 including the update and my rattle I've been fighting is now gone. Talk about relieving!
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Default 08-21-2015, 09:39 PM

Posted v31.1:

Changed the parameters for menu 12. The new range is from 1500rpm to 3000rpm. Which represents from 15% to 30% duty cycle. 30% duty cycle is enough to cause problems in some cars but higher levels just don't make sense with the new logic. Any setting of over 30% will be revert to 30%. I'd suggest 2600-2800rpm as a starting point.


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Default 08-21-2015, 10:53 PM

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Posted v31.1:

Changed the parameters for menu 12. The new range is from 1500rpm to 3000rpm. Which represents from 15% to 30% duty cycle. 30% duty cycle is enough to cause problems in some cars but higher levels just don't make sense with the new logic. Any setting of over 30% will be revert to 30%. I'd suggest 2600-2800rpm as a starting point.
Awesome thank you! Just to clear this up, menu 12, if set high, will cause overboost correct? Or is there more to it than it just being an overboost/underboost type setting? Thank you for your patience.. currently, my average IGN is 1.3 - not sure if that is good or bad. 11 gallons of 91 with 5 gallons of e85 on map 5.
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Default 08-21-2015, 10:54 PM

Menu 12 base duty cycle will cause over booting during part throttle if set too high.


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Default 08-22-2015, 12:20 PM

Would it be possible to add the Base Duty Cycle setting to the interface? It would be helpful especially since DWP, FF, PID Gain, Duty Bias are already there, and people are adjusting this more often now. Save us a lot of clicking through the steering wheel buttons for sure.
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Default 08-22-2015, 12:57 PM

It's difficult to add things to the interface as it has to work across all of our platforms. While in dash things can be firmware specific.


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Default 08-22-2015, 01:22 PM

Thanks for posting V31 Terry. I fixed my rattle with 29 I think but had a bit of lag due to the change. I was ok with this because it fixed the rattle that you could hear a mile away.

Now that Im on 31, I followed the suggestions you had posted and changed a few miscelanous things and WOW, what a difference.

On top of this I reset the Throttle/transmision controller stuff (I know, some people dont belive in it but I can feel a difference in how the car drives) and took it for a spin, not only does the car feel better through the rev range but its way smotter at low throttle leaving from a light or a hill or really any start from a complete stop.

I am extremely pleased with the way the car feels and performs again. Hasnt felt this way in a very long time.

Thanks for supporting the JB4 like you do with all of these revisions.
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Default can we get an update table for map3 boost addy - 08-23-2015, 12:40 PM

can we get an update table for map3 boost addy
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Default 08-24-2015, 06:55 AM

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can we get an update table for map3 boost addy
+1 for this request, I would like to know what the new boost curves are with map 3 + 3.5 bar TMAP sensor. I have been told that a 40 add = 21psi, but would like to see what the whole curve looks like.
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Default 08-24-2015, 06:56 AM

yeah I was thinking 60add would be about 21 or 22lbs; I was wrong...........boy 24lbs sure did feel good until kick down



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Default 08-24-2015, 08:04 AM

So whats the previous versions standard value for menu 12 Terry? 2800 rpms?


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Default 08-24-2015, 09:06 AM

Menu 12 has always been 2800rpm default. Previously people would flippantly raise it as the value was just a factor in determining the minimum and not the minimum itself. That has changed with v31 so lower values are more appropriate now.


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Default 08-24-2015, 09:31 AM

I have been getting 2D2E code thrown frequently since the update, I can feel it as the boost starts to kick in. Has anyone else experienced this with v31? I notice it more at part throttle than WOT. I changed menu 12 from 2800 to 2500 and menu 11 to 3. Will try and get logs
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Default 08-24-2015, 10:03 AM

Thanks Terry. So should i stick to 2800 in v 31.1? Or should i lower that value? In simple terms can you explain me what does it means to lower/up that value?


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Default 08-24-2015, 10:05 AM

Try 2400, 2600, 2800, and let me know what you prefer. It determines the minimum wastegate dutycycle. 2800 is 28%. Too high will cause the car to over boost to varying degrees at low throttle low RPM in higher gears. Like in 6th gear going up a hill. Too low and you'll get rattle and a lack of responsiveness.


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Default 08-24-2015, 10:16 AM

Ok. will try today. One last thing.. been reading some people having troubles with v31.1 ou 31 and no with 30.0 Been similar that shouldnt be happening right? Should i go 30.0? or straight to 31.1?


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Default 08-24-2015, 10:36 AM

We only support and suggest the latest firmware. In this case 31.1.


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Default 08-24-2015, 01:53 PM

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We only support and suggest the latest firmware. In this case 31.1.
Hey Terry,

Can you please provide an updated map 3 + 3.5bar TMAP sensor boost curves? We would like to confirm what boost additive we should be using in order to keep things consistent with previous firmwares.

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At some point I will but won't be this week. It's easy to set it and look at the target in logs, though, so I'd suggest doing that.


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Default 08-24-2015, 10:50 PM

Uploaded v31.1 tonight. Set itat 1000 rpm throtle menu and keep the 2800 rpm duty cycle menu as a start point. No errors, less rattle and great responsivness. Great update Terry. Will try 2600 rpm and 2400. As for the pedal imput i kinda like it at 1000. So as for thedury cycle, if i lower it down to 2400 saying, or even lower, will i benefit or just doing worse ( performance)?


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Default 08-25-2015, 01:51 AM

Hi Terry, it seems that Firmware 31.1 has some Problems on my car.
At half throttle my boost is always shaking between 7 and 11 psi.
I don't get any error codes, but the acceleration is completly stuttering. This happens on map 1,2 and 5.
Menu 11 was set to 1000.
Someone else having theese Problems?
Firmware 30 works fine.
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Hi Terry, it seems that Firmware 31.1 has some Problems on my car.
At half throttle my boost is always shaking between 7 and 11 psi.
I don't get any error codes, but the acceleration is completly stuttering. This happens on map 1,2 and 5.
Menu 11 was set to 1000.
Someone else having theese Problems?
Firmware 30 works fine.
Check menu 12 that's on 2800 if it's 2800 try to lower it to 2400 or 2200 and see if it help


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Default Menu 12 not saving my value - 08-25-2015, 11:07 AM

hi Terry,

I am running firmware 31.1 but when I change the value in menu 12 higher than 1400 rpm it looks like it saves it but then I go back into the menu and it's set to 1400 rpm.. I know it tops out at 3000 rpm. Any codes what's going on

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Default 08-25-2015, 12:36 PM

hey guys, newb question here, can someone real quick explain to me where i can access to change menu 11 and 12?
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hi trey,

I am running firmware 31.1 but when I change the value in menu 12 higher than 1400 rpm it looks like it saves it but then I go back into the menu and it's set to 1400 rpm.. I know it tops out at 3000 rpm. Any codes what's going on

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Hmm could be a bug. It should allow you to save between 1500 and 3000rpm. Does 2000rpm save?


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