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Default Super RB Full Weight E90 1/4 Track Times - 02-18-2016, 10:37 PM

Finally got a chance to go the track. I was only able to get 3 runs in. The first two were solid 10.8 runs the 3rd I spun badly. Can not say enough on how happy I am with the Super RBs they pull super strong and now allow me to run 10s without any fuss at all. First time out the block for a Full Weight E90 with back to back 10.8 runs is pretty damn good.

I was getting timing drops in cylinder 4 and she was kind of falling down a bit on the back half of the run, but I think I should be able to iron that out and get more out of her.

The 10.85 was my first run and I put about a bus length on a Z06 on that pass. There were two Hellcats that were there that everyone wanted me to run but neither would run me.

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Default 02-18-2016, 11:04 PM

Signature updated with current mods.

Wheels Apex Arc 8s 245 40 17 front 275 40 17 rear NT05r drag radials.

I went with more gas than I liked to have had for my track nights but I sid not want to put 93 octane in it on the way home.

This is how she looks daily or at the track just a little 4 door sleeper.
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Pure Stage 2 Hi-Flo Turbos | PSP outlets | RB Inlets | Wagner Evo 2 intercooler | Wagner Dpipes's | JB4 G5/MHD| Fuel-it stg 2 bucketless LPFP | ER Charge Pipe with Tial BOV | JB4 G5/MHD | BMS DCI's

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Default 02-18-2016, 11:23 PM

Thats awesome!
It gives me hope that I might be able to run 11 plus when our track opens in
the spring. How are you launching to get those 60 fts? Need some tips for this platform.
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Default 02-19-2016, 02:50 AM

Well done, thats some impressive times.

More importantly, your 60ft is unreal. If only i can find that sort of traction off the line.


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Default 02-19-2016, 03:00 AM

Almost 104mph in the 1/8th is moving! I'm guessing by your 60' you're a manual car?

Have you dynoed her?
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Default 02-19-2016, 04:53 AM

Damn bro that's tight..! Congrats..
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Default 02-19-2016, 05:03 AM

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Thats awesome!
It gives me hope that I might be able to run 11 plus when our track opens in
the spring. How are you launching to get those 60 fts? Need some tips for this platform.
Barry
First off I am an Automatic. I launch mostly by feel. I first gear launch, my car likes that the best and so does the transmission. I have launched many times in 2nd my car bogs badly and just does not like it.

My launch is easy get lined up stand on brake and I mean stand on beake, give gas til she feels like she can't hold in place anymore and release brake when green then stand on gas.

DSS axles or some form of upgraded axles will be a must or you are going to break them. You will also need a good drag radial or slicks NT05R's are a great cheap track even daily tire, just you have to be very careful if you daily them and you get caught in the rain.


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Pure Stage 2 Hi-Flo Turbos | PSP outlets | RB Inlets | Wagner Evo 2 intercooler | Wagner Dpipes's | JB4 G5/MHD| Fuel-it stg 2 bucketless LPFP | ER Charge Pipe with Tial BOV | JB4 G5/MHD | BMS DCI's

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Default 02-19-2016, 05:14 AM

Awesome times. Rob's turbos are finally relevant again
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Default 02-19-2016, 05:33 AM

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Awesome times. Rob's turbos are finally relevant again
Please do not try to turn this thread into a fiasco.


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Please do not try to turn this thread into a fiasco.
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Default 02-19-2016, 06:20 AM

Nice 60', but the mph in the 1/4 is low. That ET is mostly from the nice launch. Doesn't look like its making the power on the top end.


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Default 02-19-2016, 07:01 AM

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Nice 60', but the mph in the 1/4 is low. That ET is mostly from the nice launch. Doesn't look like its making the power on the top end.
Trap @ 1/8th looks good. I would indeed expect higher mph at 1/4th. But great result nevertheless. If topend gets sorted and rear seat out maybe 10.5's?


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Default 02-19-2016, 07:10 AM

Amazing results Delta!

The first two passes on the combination in for rock solid 10.80s! I think we can conclude this is no longer a fluke pass, since it was backed up. All in a full weight E90 of all things. This is literally unheard of in this entire platform, but it couldn't have been done without your driving man seriously great work!

Few things I find remarkable about your results:
1) Full weight E90 even with half a tank of gas!
2) Less than 10 modifications (including the wheels)!
3) 128,000 miles on the engine!

You have one of the most basic setups out there yet have the quickest full weight N54 in the world. Even matched up to those with 300+lb weight advantages you'd be neck and neck!

I do agree that this car was hauling through the 1/8th, but seems to really have laid down on the top end. On your classic RB's you were picking up about 28-29mph on the backend, but now you are only picking up 25-26mph. Considering you have now picked up ~2mph in the 1/8th is a good sign that there is additional power, but the car certainly seems to be laying down on the backside. Hopefully we can find a good reason why you are not seeing 31-32mph on the backend as you should be, which would put you around 134-135mph and ~10.6-10.70 ET.

All in all fantastic work and quite possibly the most impressive N54 that I have ever seen.

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Default 02-19-2016, 08:32 AM

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Nice 60', but the mph in the 1/4 is low. That ET is mostly from the nice launch. Doesn't look like its making the power on the top end.
The ET is not just from the launch my previous setup was not as strong these Super turbos remotely are. This is definitely stronger I was only able to to do a 10.9 prior on my old RBs with everything needing to fall in place and i went to the track multiple times to run as I did.

This was the first time these new turbos were at the track and first two runs are solid in the high 10's I could have duplicated this over and over if I was able to have gotten more runs in but it was getting cold and track was getting scary. With this being the first track night and with more dialing in things will get lower.

I was losing some timing in 4th it will get sorted and I am sure I will find more on the back half.


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Awesome runs!


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Default 02-19-2016, 10:02 AM

Very nice runs man! I just got the rb next gens and I've only been to our 1/8th track once and its a joke. It's literally in the parking lot of the San Diego Chargers football stadium. Unless you are AWD you will spin. The track has no prep and I'm not exaggerating one bit. My best time was a 8.021 @ 97mph. My 60ft was horrible 2.2s. I had been launching off the line in 2nd gear, but I think I'll try the first gear launches as I'm going back again tonight. The track is extremely frustrating and I'd be happy to break into the 7s. I run some 245wide nitto nt555rs. Not the best tires, but much better then my hankook street tires.

As a side note I beat everyone I ran up against and got many compliments and many "wtf is in there" things.

But thanks for your info as I will try to launch in 1st tonight as see how it goes.
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Default 02-19-2016, 10:19 AM

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The ET is not just from the launch my previous setup was not as strong these Super turbos remotely are. This is definitely stronger I was only able to to do a 10.9 prior on my old RBs with everything needing to fall in place and i went to the track multiple times to run as I did.

This was the first time these new turbos were at the track and first two runs are solid in the high 10's I could have duplicated this over and over if I was able to have gotten more runs in but it was getting cold and track was getting scary. With this being the first track night and with more dialing in things will get lower.

I was losing some timing in 4th it will get sorted and I am sure I will find more on the back half.
What was your 60' with these old RB's and the 10.9 pass?

Congrats on two 10.8 passes


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Default 02-19-2016, 10:32 AM

Impressive!!!


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Default 02-19-2016, 10:38 AM

Nice times!

Do you have an LSD or any suspension upgrades?


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Default 02-19-2016, 11:03 AM

I feel the mph is fine. If he would do a faster 60foot his mph would go down but et would be faster. Our platforms biggest problem is not being able to come out of the hole strong enough. A 500+whp car should be capable of cutting 1.4 if we could actually get all the power to the ground. If you look at a time slip of a car that does low tens that's gets a 1.3 or 1.4 sixty youll see that its mph is equivalent to our high 10sec passed. Ive seen many all motor Hondas run 10.0 at 133 but they have insane 60 and 330 times. We need to find a solution to this. Its not about making more power any more its about using all 100% we have.


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I feel the mph is fine. If he would do a faster 60foot his mph would go down but et would be faster. Our platforms biggest problem is not being able to come out of the hole strong enough. A 500+whp car should be capable of cutting 1.4 if we could actually get all the power to the ground. If you look at a time slip of a car that does low tens that's gets a 1.3 or 1.4 sixty youll see that its mph is equivalent to our high 10sec passed. Ive seen many all motor Hondas run 10.0 at 133 but they have insane 60 and 330 times. We need to find a solution to this. Its not about making more power any more its about using all 100% we have.
I have been saying this for a while. At FBO status, we are making 450/500 and have more than enough giddyup to get to 10.9X. Traction and driver mod is easily the biggest limiting factors. With the guys with stage 2 or better turbos, we should be seeing low 10's all day. I'm very confident in my driving ability and I cannot wait to get to the track; however, I am going to wait until I get the DSS axle upgrades and some nice Mickey Thompson's on. I also have a FBO 135 6MT and I'm out of fuel so I'll be doing Steves TBI. I want to be one of the first stock turbo N54's in the 10's.
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Default 02-19-2016, 11:39 AM

I think there are quite a few who see threads like this and think its easy to replicate. Many of which will go do their thing and run 12's and 13's, drag racing is tough and only some excel at it (ie. the OP). I also think there are many who do not understand how much harder it is to chip away tenths of seconds when you are already running 10's. It is not easy like when chipping away time when you are running 13's.

We are also talking about a 3750b race weight here which is not exactly a featherweight. He's got more in it but he is coming out pretty hard all things considered, my thoughts are that something was holding him back up top which could've had him holding the entire platform 1/4 mile record. Perhaps its the stock exhaust, the cpe Intercooler (that isn't up to the task at these power levels), or the 4 cyl timing pulls... but the power definitely is fading on the back half of the track. He's close to the record as is (ie. .04sec away from stock frame record vs. a 350lb lighter 1 series), but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Keep in mind this is a bone stock RWD non-LSD OEM BMW chassis/suspension/AT drivetrain with only drag radials. This is extremely impressive and the OP is extremely well dialed into driving this car.

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Default 02-19-2016, 11:56 AM

Well done, impressive.


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Default 02-19-2016, 01:51 PM

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Amazing results Delta!

The first two passes on the combination in for rock solid 10.80s! I think we can conclude this is no longer a fluke pass, since it was backed up. All in a full weight E90 of all things. This is literally unheard of in this entire platform, but it couldn't have been done without your driving man seriously great work!
I don't know about unheard of, there's someone with stock turbos in the 10s.


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Default 02-19-2016, 01:58 PM

That 60' is unreal. Awesome job. Get your top end worked out and that car will go deeper into the 10s. 104mph in the 1/8 is moving and should equal somewhere closer to 130mph in the 1/4 when all is said and done.


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