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Default 05-17-2020, 09:50 PM

If I have access to e-85 is WMI of any significant value to me? What are the typical gains over an e-30 blend on map 4? Thanks. Do I have to goto a higher than 49/51 meth mixture to see said gains?
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Default 05-17-2020, 10:09 PM

Still helpful for IAT and higher octane. Cleaner intake valves also. Wmi is a big supporting mod
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Default 05-18-2020, 06:54 AM

If it helps with IAT does that mean that an intercooler upgrade is of less of a value once running WMI?
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Default 05-18-2020, 07:47 AM

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If it helps with IAT does that mean that an intercooler upgrade is of less of a value once running WMI?
Lower IATs are always good
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Default 05-18-2020, 07:19 PM

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If I have access to e-85 is WMI of any significant value to me? What are the typical gains over an e-30 blend on map 4? Thanks. Do I have to goto a higher than 49/51 meth mixture to see said gains?
WMI has less of a benefit on E85 but still can knock off a 1th or two in the 1/4. Especially in warmer weather. But the gains are not like those massive 30-40whp gains you see if limited to pump gas.


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Default 06-26-2020, 09:21 PM

I ended up picking up the WMI kit and glad I did. Took .2 seconds off quarter and 0-60 with 116mph trap vs prior 114mph.

Now I'm wondering what addition meth tuning there is available. I upped the water/meth mixture to 20/80 and have additive value around 65. Any more options to tweak?
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Default 06-26-2020, 09:29 PM

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I ended up picking up the WMI kit and glad I did. Took .2 seconds off quarter and 0-60 with 116mph trap vs prior 114mph.

Now I'm wondering what addition meth tuning there is available. I upped the water/meth mixture to 20/80 and have additive value around 65. Any more options to tweak?

Get EWG connectors and tweak your boost profile next, if you haven't done so already!
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Default 06-26-2020, 09:53 PM

I have EWG connectors but never changed them beyond default recommended values. Don't want to high jack this thread but if it is tuning that relates to WMI I assume it is ok.
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Default 06-26-2020, 10:58 PM

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I ended up picking up the WMI kit and glad I did. Took .2 seconds off quarter and 0-60 with 116mph trap vs prior 114mph.

Now I'm wondering what addition meth tuning there is available. I upped the water/meth mixture to 20/80 and have additive value around 65. Any more options to tweak?
If timings are good increase the additive.
You may want to share a log for tuning advice.
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Default 06-27-2020, 12:24 AM

Yeah, of timing looks good at the 65 additive, you can tweak the boost profile with your EWG control. Or you can try increasing the additive. But, I think the EWG control gives you more fine tunability of the boost.

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Default 06-27-2020, 10:46 AM

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If timings are good increase the additive.
You may want to share a log for tuning advice.
Here is on with additive already at 75. Ign look good not alot of room but looks like I could use a lb or two.

What EWG settings should I modify to get a bit more out of it?
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Default 07-11-2020, 11:06 AM

Any and is so what advantage to having the wmi be injected right after the FMIC like on the BSM FMIC 1/8" NPT bung?

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Default 07-19-2020, 08:47 AM

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Any and is so what advantage to having the wmi be injected right after the FMIC like on the BSM FMIC 1/8" NPT bung?

Thanks
Usually the further away from the throttle the better distribution can be, but in practice, we haven't found a lot of difference in performance between our chargepipe MAP sensor adapter and the intercooler bung. The IC bung provides more space for things like the Fuel-IT CPI kit and also cost savings for those who are running WMI so they don't need to buy our separate MAP adapter. Unless they want to.


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Default Installing WMI tonight - 08-11-2020, 04:43 PM

I have a few questions
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1. My kit came with either a diode or a transistor with the center pin cut. What is that for? I can't find that in any instructions. If it's a diode is it directional?
3. Could the PDF instructions be updated to include the drill bit and tap size needed for the 1 Gal tank? I found it buried from one of the admins replies but if it was in the instructions that would be great.
2. Could the instructions be updated to reflect the current maps, they refer to the old ones and it's confusing.
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Default 08-12-2020, 07:56 PM

That mounts to the pump positive and negative, it's covered in the meth install PDF!

The guide also tells you the pump uses 1/8" NPT for the tap. Do you have the current guide?


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Default 08-13-2020, 04:15 AM

Hey Terry,
I was looking at an old pdf, it was linked in this thread. I found the newer one on your Burger site. The tap was the tank fitting which is 1/4", thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
The rectifier wiring is not there in the pdf though. Ando sent me a camera shot yesterday of how its wired, the picture attached is from him. BUT, I've been known to miss stuff before...
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That mounts to the pump positive and negative, it's covered in the meth install PDF!

The guide also tells you the pump uses 1/8" NPT for the tap. Do you have the current guide?
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Default 08-24-2020, 09:55 PM

The Plug in and Play WMI Nozzle Adapter is shown to be backordred. Any update on when that will be in stock, I wanted to pick up a BMW wmi kit but was wondering when that is coming back along with the billet vent cap.
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Default 08-30-2020, 04:56 PM

Weird question but what kind of flow should I be seeing when I purge? It seems like my WMI is flowing weak so I pulled the nozzle and watched the fluid purge and itís only pushing a small trickle. Iím not expecting a full stream but it looks weaker than I had guessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7y...ature=youtu.be
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Default 08-31-2020, 12:38 AM

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Weird question but what kind of flow should I be seeing when I purge? It seems like my WMI is flowing weak so I pulled the nozzle and watched the fluid purge and itís only pushing a small trickle. Iím not expecting a full stream but it looks weaker than I had guessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW7y...ature=youtu.be
Which way is the filter on the solenoid pointing?
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Default 08-31-2020, 04:34 AM

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Which way is the filter on the solenoid pointing?
Itís pointing towards the injector.
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Default 08-31-2020, 11:53 PM

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Itís pointing towards the injector.
Totally unsure what would cause poor flow. What happens if you remove the solenoid from the system and go from the pump directly to the nozzle adapter?
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Default 09-08-2020, 08:34 AM

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Hey Terry,
I was looking at an old pdf, it was linked in this thread. I found the newer one on your Burger site. The tap was the tank fitting which is 1/4", thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
The rectifier wiring is not there in the pdf though. Ando sent me a camera shot yesterday of how its wired, the picture attached is from him. BUT, I've been known to miss stuff before...
Terry, I bought the stealth kit about 2 months ago...mine did not come with these wires. Was it supposed to?
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Default MB nozzles - 09-09-2020, 08:14 PM

Does anyone know what the actual flow rate is on the BM5 - BM7 - and BM10 nozzles are? Either is cc or ml??
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Default 09-10-2020, 08:48 AM

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Does anyone know what the actual flow rate is on the BM5 - BM7 - and BM10 nozzles are? Either is cc or ml??
As far as I know most of the parts supplied to Burger for their kits come from Cooling Mist.

So the CM7 or CM10 is the same as a BM7 (640cc) or a BM10 (940cc)

That is why I came to the conclusion I did with my recommendation.
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Default 09-10-2020, 10:03 AM

Thanks again DJ edit....
I chatted with BMS, their BM5, BM7 is a Gal an hour nozzle rating. Math conversion comes out a bit different. 5/gph = 315cc, 7/gph = 440cc. Though the real world actual flow could of been measured and do match the CM ratings?

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