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Default PS2 high flow E85 BEF Terry's JB4 Settings Advice. - 09-25-2020, 11:21 AM

HI, yes Fuel It Stage 2 pump was purchased new via mechanic through ECS or FCP and JB4 G5 was send direct to me on Bunker Terrace in Itasca IL 60143

Please review this log and let me know where I can improve. Is there anything I should have custom DME calibration for based on this tune? ...which I like...It rips onhttps://www.n54tech.com/forums/images/smilies/burnrubber.gif the highway!


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Default As promised e85 hybrid with Terry's settings - 09-25-2020, 11:27 AM

Please Review, sorry for personal technical difficulties.
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Default New log after diluting tank with 93 a bit, - 09-25-2020, 07:05 PM

I was doing regular driving and was put into map 4 for fuel pressure so I took 1/4 tank 93 on top of my straight e85 fill-up reduce demand on fuel pump, if I have that correctly?
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I was doing regular driving and was put into map 4 for fuel pressure so I took 1/4 tank 93 on top of my straight e85 fill-up reduce demand on fuel pump, if I have that correctly?
Hpfp cant hang
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Hpfp cant hang

Thank you, so I either need a HPFP upgrade our should be using the race Map with e-40 or a little lower? ...something like the eh?


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Thank you, so I either need a HPFP upgrade our should be using the race Map with e-40 or a little lower? ...something like the eh?
You could try that and see if hpfp is happier, but also keep an eye on timing drops. I would do PI as I have had no issues. Just get a quality kit and injectors.
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You could try that and see if hpfp is happier, but also keep an eye on timing drops. I would do PI as I have had no issues. Just get a quality kit and injectors.

Thank you Sir. I will drop down to e45 today and see if that improves things. I am looking into the Double Barrel or the overdrive unit which makes the hpfp go 3 revolutions for every one that it normally makes.

I really appreciate the feedback. The only good part of sending $450 to a custom tuner which is unresponsive to my emails is that it si forcing me to learn a bit on my own.

In regard to timing drops, are you referring to keeping an eye on the AVG IGN field or a 6 cylinder numbers; as for the latter, I know they are supposed to be same or close to each other for healthy engine; so far so good with that. What is and example, numerically which reveals a timing drop of 4% or less, i.e. would that mean the difference, for example, of between 14.3 and 14 or: 11-14?


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Thank you Sir. I will drop down to e45 today and see if that improves things. I am looking into the Double Barrel or the overdrive unit which makes the hpfp go 3 revolutions for every one that it normally makes.

I really appreciate the feedback. The only good part of sending $450 to a custom tuner which is unresponsive to my emails is that it si forcing me to learn a bit on my own.

In regard to timing drops, are you referring to keeping an eye on the AVG IGN field or a 6 cylinder numbers; as for the latter, I know they are supposed to be same or close to each other for healthy engine; so far so good with that. What is and example, numerically which reveals a timing drop of 4% or less, i.e. would that mean the difference, for example, of between 14.3 and 14 or: 11-14?
I did not know you were working with a tuner. Nobody likes toes being stepped on.
I will say that actual ign per cylinder is more important to me vs. avg ign.
Many have used over drive units, but I rather not push certain things to their limits and still prefer pi. Just my opinion of course.
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I did not know you were working with a tuner. Nobody likes toes being stepped on.
I will say that actual ign per cylinder is more important to me vs. avg ign.
Many have used over drive units, but I rather not push certain things to their limits and still prefer pi. Just my opinion of course.
...as to toes being stepped on I respect the propriety of specialists but the roads will not be warm enough to log with Firehawks in about a month as traction is already an issue when creating the logs. It will push me to spring with tuner which is kind of infuriating. The car does haul ass but I just don't want unhealthy logs when driving the car on dry, despite cold, days and grenade the MF engine; in that matter your advice may be saving my ass a bit.
The base map which I was given makes that car run like a diesel lawn mower.


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Default 09-29-2020, 12:18 PM

Hey,

Sorry I am late to the party, I've been getting pulled in 383284853489 directions, but I am here!!!

Took a look at the most recent log...

Your HPFP is maxed, and your LPFP is dipping into the 50s. Both aren't good.

You need to either lower boost, lower octane, or both until your HPFP / LPFP are happy.


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Hey,

Sorry I am late to the party, I've been getting pulled in 383284853489 directions, but I am here!!!

Took a look at the most recent log...

Your HPFP is maxed, and your LPFP is dipping into the 50s. Both aren't good.

You need to either lower boost, lower octane, or both until your HPFP / LPFP are happy.
Thank you, I have a brand new Fuel-it stage 2 pump, does that mean I should upgrade to stage 3? It's my understanding that a HPFP overdrive might help out a bit?

I am back on BMS e85 Hyrbid BEF with PS2, because my custom tuner seems to busy for me. Typically, what kind of fueling is appropriate to run e60? I am not interested in PI.

I truly appreciate the feedback. I dropped down to e40 yesterday and am letting adaptation reset a bit before I log again.


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Hey,

Sorry I am late to the party, I've been getting pulled in 383284853489 directions, but I am here!!!

Took a look at the most recent log...

Your HPFP is maxed, and your LPFP is dipping into the 50s. Both aren't good.

You need to either lower boost, lower octane, or both until your HPFP / LPFP are happy.
Also, My LPFP is at 65 at idle, and I have heard of stock pumps being at 70. What gives. Is it my ethenol?


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Also, My LPFP is at 65 at idle, and I have heard of stock pumps being at 70. What gives. Is it my ethenol?
Idle @ 65 is okay.

Can I see a log with the new LPFP & I assume e40?


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Default 10-03-2020, 02:37 PM

Thank you for the help x1000.

That log was with the new pump but its wet today and have been busy. I will send you an e40 log tomorrow if it is dry.

I am going to order the helix 1:3 tomorrow as well and get that installed ASAP.


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Default New Log, per Fuel it. - 10-04-2020, 01:11 PM

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Idle @ 65 is okay.

Can I see a log with the new LPFP & I assume e40?
Here is a log at as close I could get it to e40. I also ran map 6 again with boost targets set 3 psi below pervious settings to ensure no map 4 bounce.

Two Pulls on log are attached.

Also, I just recently set both user-adjustment duty cycle columns back to zero because I read Terry mentioning that it is the only difference in setting up a 335is versus a 335i; this means that I did not have the two columns set to E85 Hybrid default settings. There is some ambiguity there as to which one it is supposed to be...if those 0,0,0,0,0,0... 335is-n54 setting are a blanket statement before a hybrid flash, after, or both.

Car felt weak here.
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HPFP & LPFP both still look pretty tired here

HPFP in the 9s & LPFP touching into the high 50s


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HPFP & LPFP both still look pretty tired here

HPFP in the 9s & LPFP touching into the high 50s
Helix will be at my door by the 27'th, I will log again. If stage 3 LPFP is in order after that, so be it. That's one of the obvious benefits of mutual back-scratching here that I can appreciate.

I ordered the improved micron filter with the pump kit to not impede flow more than necessary. My mechanic is the one that recommended Fuel-it pump in the spring which I originally began working with E. Perhaps my Power Goals of 600 at the crank are better suited to stage 3.


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Correction, it will be at my door by the 7th*...i.e. in two days.


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HPFP & LPFP both still look pretty tired here

HPFP in the 9s & LPFP touching into the high 50s
O.K. so I went ahead and installed a Helix 3:1, even replaced the HPFP and removed the little filter to add the 10 micron filter unit. The car ran the same with the same dips on BMS Map.

I now have a custom map from a very popular tuner with fuel tables for Helix and command to open valve from 60 to 80% and I am getting the same HPFP dips. This is with flat boost set at 16 in map 6 at full E-85. Now I understand that I am leaving the BMS domain a little bit, but you have me and a seasoned pro stumped. So if you or anyone would be so kind to enlighten us what is going on, it would be a case of beer with delivery.

Here is log:
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