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Default FMIC with DCT - Cooling line rerouting? - 12-18-2016, 12:17 PM

Hey all. I am hoping someone with a DCT on their n54 that installed an aftermarket FMIC can shed some light for me. I've heard that there are some hard cooling lines related to the DCT that need to be rerouted in order to make clearance for a FMIC. I believe this was in reference to a stepped FMIC but not sure. What has been your experience? Anyway, I am looking to get a new FMIC for my 2013 335is DCT and am looking for advice on which units will not require this cooling line rerouting. I don't mind trimming plastic but not so sure about rerouting transmission cooling lines. Thanks for the help.
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Default 12-18-2016, 01:49 PM

Must be a stepped unit, had a 5" ETS & it was a straight take off put on swap. Only extra work is pulling the fan unit makes the swap 100% easier.

Sorry but can't check anything out for you since the car is long gone.


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Default 12-18-2016, 03:30 PM

Installed Wagner FMIC on my friend e92 2009 n54 with DCT and it was direct fit same as my 2009 6AT


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Default 12-18-2016, 04:46 PM

I had a Wagner on mine which was minimal trimming at all, have since fitted an ER competition cooler and the shroud needed trimming but no hard lines were re routed.. You should be good to go unless one of your lines are routed in a different manner to stock.


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Default 12-18-2016, 08:50 PM

My VRSF 7" fit with no issues other than trimming of some plastic


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Default 12-19-2016, 04:11 AM

Same here. Fitted an ER Competion with their CF shroud with some minor trimming but no need to reroute any lines. I have a 335is as well


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Default 12-19-2016, 08:26 AM

No issues with the Wagner Evo 2 on my car. Just required minor trimming of the factory shroud.


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Default 12-19-2016, 05:22 PM

Just had to trim some plastic when installing my wagner FMIC. No issues with DCT cooler lines.


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Default 12-20-2016, 09:36 PM

Guys, thanks very much for replying. I am very happy to know I have good options. Thanks again.
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Default 12-21-2016, 11:29 AM

When the shop I use installed a CSF radiator in my car, the additional thickness of the new radiator and the combination of the ER Competition FMIC caused interference on that transmission coolant line. Currently, the FMIC sits about an 1" lower on the passenger side because of this.

Just an FYI, that a CSF radiator and upgrade FMIC may not mesh perfectly. With the stock radiator though, I didn't notice any interference.

If anyone else ran into this issue and has a solution to it, I'd love to hear it so I can ensure a closer seal between the top of the FMIC and bottom of the radiator.

Note that this is on a 2013 335is with a DCT.
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Default 12-21-2016, 12:00 PM

Same here 7" vrsf on a DCT 335i. Straight in with the usual bodywork trim.

I wonder if it might be that some of the M cars have addition transmission cooling lines?


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Default 12-22-2016, 08:08 AM

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When the shop I use installed a CSF radiator in my car, the additional thickness of the new radiator and the combination of the ER Competition FMIC caused interference on that transmission coolant line. Currently, the FMIC sits about an 1" lower on the passenger side because of this.

Just an FYI, that a CSF radiator and upgrade FMIC may not mesh perfectly. With the stock radiator though, I didn't notice any interference.

If anyone else ran into this issue and has a solution to it, I'd love to hear it so I can ensure a closer seal between the top of the FMIC and bottom of the radiator.

Note that this is on a 2013 335is with a DCT.
I have a 2011 335is with the CSF radiator and I've used the AA street and it fit with trimming and now I run the AA race. I just ordered AD Engineering "1000 hp" intercooler so we will see how that fits...
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Default 12-22-2016, 06:23 PM

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I have a 2011 335is with the CSF radiator and I've used the AA street and it fit with trimming and now I run the AA race. I just ordered AD Engineering "1000 hp" intercooler so we will see how that fits...
With DCT?

Looking at pictures of the AA street intercooler, it uses the standard hosing just like the stock intercooler so I'm not surprised it would fit fine. I can't find any pictures of the AA Race intercooler except the front with the shroud so I can't compare piping on the race intercooler.

Evolution Racewerks has a picture comparing the stock N54 intercooler to their competition intercooler so it would seem line a fair comparison to the AA Street intercooler (except I'm willing to assume the AA street intercooler is thicker, for the obvious performance upgrade):


Looking at AD Engineering's 1000whp intercooler, it looks like the piping might be similar to the ER Competition intercooler but I couldn't compare them without seeing them side by side:



If you have a DCT and this intercooler doesn't interfere, definitely let us know.
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Default 12-23-2016, 07:01 AM

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With DCT?

Looking at pictures of the AA street intercooler, it uses the standard hosing just like the stock intercooler so I'm not surprised it would fit fine. I can't find any pictures of the AA Race intercooler except the front with the shroud so I can't compare piping on the race intercooler.

Evolution Racewerks has a picture comparing the stock N54 intercooler to their competition intercooler so it would seem line a fair comparison to the AA Street intercooler (except I'm willing to assume the AA street intercooler is thicker, for the obvious performance upgrade):


Looking at AD Engineering's 1000whp intercooler, it looks like the piping might be similar to the ER Competition intercooler but I couldn't compare them without seeing them side by side:



If you have a DCT and this intercooler doesn't interfere, definitely let us know.
Yes the AA street is similar to the ER competition. AA Race is weird. Not what I would have expected it to be. Almost looks like the ebay/big tom intercooler with an AA shroud and stickers

And yes, I am a DCT car. Shooting for 8-900 hp 1st quarter of 2017. Biggest set back right now is the clutch packs. That is going to be the last upgrade after I do the rear end. I have all the fueling stuff I need.

And yes, ADE's intercooler has similar piping but the "J pipe" is longer on the ADE IC. It looks like it should fit but only time will tell. I hope it fits cause I want this thing on my car lol
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