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Default 05-29-2014, 08:23 AM

Well from the instructions there is only one value to change in the settings.Firmware loaded fine and completed and jb4 restarted and tested out good.Out of curiosity was cold start tested ? i might just wait for the harness before mucking around again. im happy with my current state of tune on 8.6 production firmware.
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You probably just loaded something wrong or entered an incorrect setting somewhere. Without an EWG connector installed and without the blue pneumatic patch installed there is very little difference in the overall function of the firmware. We've run the EWG firmware on several cars without the adapter and it runs like normal.


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Default 05-29-2014, 08:34 PM

Load firmware ...Confirm set PID to 12 OL to 50 for FF wires didn't need to disconnect battery due not installing the harness ? Anything else ? Also like to confirm that the EWG firmware is good for E30


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Default 05-29-2014, 09:18 PM

PID setting won't matter, FF should be set to 50 when FF wires are installed, for any version of the firmware.

The EWG cars don't always tolerate E85. Don't be surprised if yours does not.


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Default 05-29-2014, 09:26 PM

Thanks Terry ... Ok.... But on the 8.6 version of the firmware my car is happy and has been running on e85 mix for a week. If its happy on 8.6 Firmware it would be safe to say that it should be happy on the EWG firmware ?


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Default 05-30-2014, 04:24 PM

Here's a video showing how to avoid the startup code bug with the EWG harness in place.



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Default 05-30-2014, 04:39 PM

Thanks for the video Terry , Thats a great work around and simple solution to the problem in the interim !! Might be time for an EWG harness
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Default 05-30-2014, 04:41 PM

It's been working for me hopefully others can test and verify its a good work around! The startup code is somewhat complicated but I'm still digging through it to find the culprit.


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Default 05-31-2014, 07:39 AM

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well if he didnt buy brand new your asking for trouble. that said i purchased brand new and it didnt even have the latest firmware :-( so who knows ..... need laptop and cable.
If you don't own a laptop. Get one of the 3rd party interfaces. you can do firmwares, change maps, logs and hell just about anything. I use the Android one. Works great.


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Default 05-31-2014, 10:24 AM

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Here's a video showing how to avoid the startup code bug with the EWG harness in place.

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will map 5 be finished by the next firmware update?


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Default 05-31-2014, 10:35 AM

Probably. Working on it now.


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Default 05-31-2014, 01:21 PM

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Here's a video showing how to avoid the startup code bug with the EWG harness in place.

Nice. I do this anyway.
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Default 05-31-2014, 03:45 PM

I haven't had any start up code issues.


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Are you comfort access?


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Default 05-31-2014, 04:40 PM

Terry Im not sure if this helps you with the R&D process but i would get drivetrain malfunction error everytime after a negative battery disconnect.... Currently im not one of the EWG testers.

It wasn't until the other day when i removed the P3 from the OBD11 port that i realised that i didn't get the fault when disconnecting the battery. So in Short with something plugged into the OBD11 port for example P3 negative side of battery remove and attach I can recreate the error every time.


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I had a drivetrain malfunction first time I took it out for a drive after install. Restarted the car and haven't had one since. I've had it installed a few weeks running map 2.


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I had a drivetrain malfunction first time I took it out for a drive after install. Restarted the car and haven't had one since. I've had it installed a few weeks running map 2.


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Where can I get this EWG Harness?
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Can I ask what might be a dumb question? I live in the UK and have an M135i with EWG, and a JB4.

Without wastegate control, how can the JB4 actually provide more power on an EWG car?

I understand you may be able to vary ignition timing and A/F ratios to provide a bit more power. But if you don't have wastegate control how can you run more boost, which is what really provides the extra power/torque?

Once EWG is released and I get the new harness, how much more power and torque can I expect compared to the current Map 1?

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Can I ask what might be a dumb question? I live in the UK and have an M135i with EWG, and a JB4.

Without wastegate control, how can the JB4 actually provide more power on an EWG car?

I understand you may be able to vary ignition timing and A/F ratios to provide a bit more power. But if you don't have wastegate control how can you run more boost, which is what really provides the extra power/torque?

Once EWG is released and I get the new harness, how much more power and torque can I expect compared to the current Map 1?

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You can still reach higher boost levels, so you will still make more power, but without the EWG harness, you are limited to around 3-4psi over stock. I have a M235 and I did make more power on map 2 and map 7 without the harness.

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Can I ask what might be a dumb question? I live in the UK and have an M135i with EWG, and a JB4.

Without wastegate control, how can the JB4 actually provide more power on an EWG car?

I understand you may be able to vary ignition timing and A/F ratios to provide a bit more power. But if you don't have wastegate control how can you run more boost, which is what really provides the extra power/torque?

Once EWG is released and I get the new harness, how much more power and torque can I expect compared to the current Map 1?

Thanks
The JB4 without the electronic EWG harness has limited duty cycle control, the EWG harness addition gives it a wider range of control. You can make 3-5psi over stock with the JB4 on EWG cars without the harness.


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Thanks guys. That clears things up nicely.
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Terry, Is the E85 issue being worked on? I really want to unleash this thing!
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Default 06-02-2014, 09:04 AM

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PID setting won't matter, FF should be set to 50 when FF wires are installed, for any version of the firmware.

The EWG cars don't always tolerate E85. Don't be surprised if yours does not.
Terry, all cars running FF wires have to set OL at 50 even if its not using E85 mix? (In my case I use race gas).

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Terry, Is the E85 issue being worked on? I really want to unleash this thing!
What issue? I run an E35 mix and no problems so far.
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