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Default 01-04-2011, 09:28 PM

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Whats the difference between the ALPHA and BETA???
With beta you are likely to make it around the block without calling a towtruck.


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Default 01-04-2011, 09:31 PM

hahahahaha ^
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Default 01-04-2011, 10:09 PM

alphas are more dominant whereas betas are more submissive
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Default 01-05-2011, 04:02 AM

is autotuning going to be enabled in beta? Has anyone been able to test and log this?
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Default 01-05-2011, 11:07 AM

Autotuning and autopid are disabled, but we'll add them in a future firmware update. Doing some development on those now.


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Default 01-05-2011, 11:24 AM

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Autotuning and autopid are disabled, but we'll add them in a future firmware update. Doing some development on those now.
great to hear!
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Default 01-05-2011, 01:25 PM

so can we upgrade our JB3 to the JB4 beta? or do i have to wait for the full release before getting the credit? (i got my jb3 mid to late November 2010)


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Default 01-05-2011, 02:39 PM

Can anyone provide a brief explanation of the Global Features and the affect they have once the values are changed. I'm particulary interested in:

Boost Gain, Auto shift damper and feed forward....thanks
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Default 01-05-2011, 02:41 PM

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Can anyone provide a brief explanation of the Global Features and the affect they have once the values are changed. I'm particulary interested in:

Boost Gain, Auto shift damper and feed forward....thanks
+1. Was about to ask that too.
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Default 01-05-2011, 03:29 PM

Just leave them at the default values, they are not meant for you to change them.


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Default 01-05-2011, 04:34 PM

Just put in a order for mine, hope i aint far down the list.. Finally gettting some time to play for the next few months


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Default 01-05-2011, 05:08 PM

So, I just got my 335xi and want to get the JB4 with cone filters and scan tool. I see I can purchase the beta version on the website now. Will the beta versions get a free upgrade to the full release once it is available?
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Default 01-05-2011, 05:43 PM

Firmware updates are always free, and downloaded from this forum. Expect lots of firmware updates for the next few months as we add new features.


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Default 01-05-2011, 05:47 PM

soo when will the "regular" version be out thats ready to go and doesnt need anything?
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Default 01-05-2011, 05:54 PM

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Firmware updates are always free, and downloaded from this forum. Expect lots of firmware updates for the next few months as we add new features.
Sounds good, so how long will it take to receive once I order the JB4 beta?
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Default 01-05-2011, 05:55 PM

The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.


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Default 01-05-2011, 05:59 PM

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The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.
Thanks, I'm going to order one off your website right now!
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Default 01-05-2011, 06:00 PM

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With beta you are likely to make it around the block without calling a towtruck.
Glad I have a truck to tow myself. I would have spent a fortune on the 500 times I had to tow myself back to my garage this week alone. And it's only Wednesday.


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Default 01-05-2011, 06:20 PM

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Just leave them at the default values, they are not meant for you to change them.
We promise not to screw with it.....if it's not too much to ask, can you briefly go over their functions.
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Default 01-05-2011, 06:26 PM

All are calibrations for the PID boost control system. PIDGain is the dynamic component, FF the fixed component (soon to be adaptive with autoPID), and shift reduction how much PWM is removed during automatic shifts.

To optimize FFMAX for example when logging if the FF parameter is routinely higher than the PWM parameter then FFMAX can be reduced, lowering the FF component of the PID, until it sits around 10% lower than PWM under general WOT conditions. It's not practical for users to self optimize this though which is why we're creating the autoPID system.


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Default 01-05-2011, 06:38 PM

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All are calibrations for the PID boost control system. PIDGain is the dynamic component, FF the fixed component (soon to be adaptive with autoPID), and shift reduction how much PWM is removed during automatic shifts.

To optimize FFMAX for example when logging if the FF parameter is routinely higher than the PWM parametric then FFMAX can be reduced, lowering the FF component of the PID, until it sits around 10% lower than PWM under general WOT conditions. It's not practical for users to self optimize this though which is why we're creating the autoPID system.
What the F%*K are you talking about Terry?
Whatever you said I agree cause JB4 ROCKS!!
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Default 01-05-2011, 06:49 PM

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The JB4 PnPs are in stock, I think 10 left, give or take.
Ordered mine Yesterday


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Default 01-05-2011, 07:28 PM

upgrades in stock??
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Default 01-05-2011, 07:43 PM

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upgrades in stock??
I checked before buying, but there was no upgrade option, so I just paid it in full. I guess I will need to sell the JB3. Got my tracking#


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Default 01-05-2011, 09:18 PM

Upgrades are not in stock yet. If you already have a JB3 though it's a lot cheaper to upgrade, if waiting a few more days is worth saving some cash.


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