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The power potential for a JB4 vs. a Stage1 is similar. But the JB4 will be much smoother, and offer more features, while hitting the same peak power level. To get more power than Stage1 you need the JB4 + BCM.


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The power potential for a JB4 vs. a Stage1 is similar. But the JB4 will be much smoother, and offer more features, while hitting the same peak power level. To get more power than Stage1 you need the JB4 + BCM.
And JB4 plus BCM is worth all the install labor plus some! Car comes to life.
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And JB4 plus BCM is worth all the install labor plus some! Car comes to life.
Hi!

Are you able to elaborate and explain what you mean by the 'car comes to life'? I have the stage 1 and have been happily using it for years now--it's been in 4 or 5 cars and is currently in my M6. I'm trying to gather some more objective data as to why I might go for the JB4+BCM upgrade. Are you able to compare the two (assuming you had the stage 1 that is)?

Thanks.


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And JB4 plus BCM is worth all the install labor plus some! Car comes to life.


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Excellent... both you and your customers seem elated!

Feel free to chime in on my question below assuming your obvious enthusiasm and possible bias doesn't hinder your objectivity :

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Are you able to elaborate and explain what you mean by the 'car comes to life'? I have the stage 1 and have been happily using it for years now--it's been in 4 or 5 cars and is currently in my M6. I'm trying to gather some more objective data as to why I might go for the JB4+BCM upgrade. Are you able to compare the two (assuming you had the stage 1 that is)?


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The JB4+BCM adds power and features over the Stage1. We've not come across any customers who have upgraded who didn't think it was well worth it.


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Hi!

Are you able to elaborate and explain what you mean by the 'car comes to life'? I have the stage 1 and have been happily using it for years now--it's been in 4 or 5 cars and is currently in my M6. I'm trying to gather some more objective data as to why I might go for the JB4+BCM upgrade. Are you able to compare the two (assuming you had the stage 1 that is)?

Thanks.
Going from 17/18 psi to 21/22 psi and hitting more consistently to target you will absolutely feel the power difference. Remind yourself of power difference you felt from stock to stage 1. Then you can almost compare that to stage 1 to jb4 + BCM. If you then add meth to that, car will scare you again.
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Going from 17/18 psi to 21/22 psi and hitting more consistently to target you will absolutely feel the power difference. Remind yourself of power difference you felt from stock to stage 1. Then you can almost compare that to stage 1 to jb4 + BCM. If you then add meth to that, car will scare you again.
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Anybody a few more pictures of m5 install?
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Car feels fast on map2 with bcm, feels like I've added e85 honestly


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Hello I've ordered s63tu M5/M6 JB4 BETA w/ BCM & OBDII, should I order the stage 1 also??
and If I order it where should I plug it as the s63tu M5/M6 JB4 BETA w/ BCM & OBDII will be plugged in the TMAP sensor.


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Default 02-09-2016, 09:35 AM

You either run the JB4 OR the Stage1, not both at the same time, lol.


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Default 02-09-2016, 07:43 PM

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Car feels fast on map2 with bcm, feels like I've added e85 honestly
That's great to know.

I notice below you've dyno'd most of your cars--any plans to do the same here? I'm especially interested since we share the same car and I know what I'm putting down with Terry's stage 1...


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I am on day 3 on Map 2 with my JB4+BCM on 93oct. Going to put it on our dyno tomorrow or Wednesday.

If you read first post he talks about tuning on pump gas and they found Map 2 at 22psi was good on 93oct. The link to that thread is in the post as well.
Did you ever post back the dyno results--it's possible I missed something?


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Default 02-09-2016, 08:40 PM

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You either run the JB4 OR the Stage1, not both at the same time, lol.
Ok so far I have installed the jb4 with the bcm, but FF keep rising and Im not getting any more boost.
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Looks like a major boost leak, fault code stored, or some issue with your installation. Unrelated to your problem but boost safety should be set to 26psi.


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Default 02-09-2016, 10:28 PM

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Looks like a major boost leak, fault code stored, or some issue with your installation. Unrelated to your problem but boost safety should be set to 26psi.
I tried to set boost safety to 26 but nothing changed.

As you can see the throttle is closing at WOT and it never be in a range 70-100, do you think it could be installation issue.

What's your recommendation?


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What's your recommendation?
We don't do 1 on 1 tech support in the main forum. You could make a post in the support forum. I'd start by removing the BCM though and doing a log on map4 on the JB4 only to evaluate stock boost.


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Okay I will do and attach the log to the support section.


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But I have one question I upload the firmware through the bluetooth kit don't you think I should do it through the obd ??


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The JB4 firmware is loaded via either a BMS DATA cable or the JB4 blue tooth kit.


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Hi Terry,

Hope all is well with you. Just to ask, as i randomly read from "N54" section that FUD set to 0 means the various FutureUseD options are not enabled while FUD set to 95 means the duty bias adjustment is "activated" and hence requires the DB to be set manually by rpm. Does this applies to the S63tu 1.4c firmware as well? Thanks.
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N54 stuff does not apply to the S63tu.


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N54 stuff does not apply to the S63tu.
Ah ok. Thanks. So I'll just leave my FUD at 0.
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Anyone running the JB4 with BCM on an otherwise Stock (non-CP) M5 on 93 octane? How's it going for you? Running Map 1 or Map 2 most often?
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