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Default 05-17-2011, 08:20 AM

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Yes I agree there is the switch via the wheel command... try to do it while driving????


A simple flip of a switch is easier! Like the M button on the 1M coupé
Not sure why you think the steering wheel control map switching is hard to do while driving. I personally think its easier than a switch because I don't have to take my hands off the steering wheel. The volume up/down and station up/down buttons are within perfect reach of your thumbs while your hands on on the 10 and 2 o'clock posistion of the wheel. Simply press the volume and station down buttons at the same time, station up button once, and then volume down once and BAM!, you just went from map 1 to map 2. I can do it with my eyes closed just as fast as reaching for, and flipping a switch


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Default 05-17-2011, 08:41 AM

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Yes I agree there is the switch via the wheel command... try to do it while driving????
Yes, I don't see why that is a problem. An in all reality, unless you are at the track switching to race fuel or something out of the ordinary I would just pick a map that works best for your setup and leave it on that Map.

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Default 05-17-2011, 11:14 AM

Well the steering wheel controls are in fact designed to be used while driving due to normal switches and buttons being unsafe...
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Default 05-17-2011, 11:22 AM

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Could you add to the JB4 the map switching via a physical switch, like it was possible in JB3

I don't mind to solder a wire on the JB4 chip to go to the switch...

It would be great to switch from map1 to map2 or map5 on the fly
That's so backwards! Just use the integrated steering wheel controls.


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Default 05-17-2011, 11:59 AM

lol thats like wanting to manually engage your starter motor with a switch when you can just press the ignition button to start the car.

i left my gauges in command center mode one time before letting my friend drive and then asked him how he managed to screw up my tune.


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Default 05-17-2011, 07:51 PM

Ummmmm...you can switch from map to map on the fly via the steering wheel controls. I'm confused.
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Default 05-17-2011, 10:50 PM

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Do you have a JB4? If so then I highly recommend reading the instructions...I'm not wanting to sound like a dick, which I know I do. But, the JB4 has one of the best Map switching functions of any tuner/piggyback on the market
+1. The map switching in the JB 4 is easily the best map switching of any tune out there.
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Default 05-18-2011, 02:45 AM

The wheel command is indeed nice and modern!

But in case of need (if a ferrari comes on) it would be nice to switch map by flipping a switch located in the small glove box at the left ! (the switch is already there)

Faster than multiple klicks on the wheel buttons

Come on Terry, this should be matter of 1h devlopment for you to integrate it on a new version of JB4
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Default 05-18-2011, 02:58 AM

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The wheel command is indeed nice and modern!

But in case of need (if a ferrari comes on) it would be nice to switch map by flipping a switch located in the small glove box at the left ! (the switch is already there)

Faster than multiple klicks on the wheel buttons

Come on Terry, this should be matter of 1h devlopment for you to integrate it on a new version of JB4
Im willing to bet I can change from map 5 to map 7 using my steering wheels controls faster than most can reach in to their glove box, feel for and find the switch and then switch it.....

The steering wheel controld literally takes 2 seconds to change a map.

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Default 05-18-2011, 04:23 AM

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The wheel command is indeed nice and modern!

But in case of need (if a ferrari comes on) it would be nice to switch map by flipping a switch located in the small glove box at the left ! (the switch is already there)

Faster than multiple klicks on the wheel buttons

Come on Terry, this should be matter of 1h devlopment for you to integrate it on a new version of JB4
I am with the others in saying the wheel buttons are great! They are fast, easy to learn, and you can not get anymore stock/stealth looking.

Also, why would we want Terry taking his time working up some sort of rig when he could be taking this time on real upgrades to the system that make our cars faster???
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Default 05-18-2011, 04:44 AM

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The wheel command is indeed nice and modern!

But in case of need (if a ferrari comes on) it would be nice to switch map by flipping a switch located in the small glove box at the left ! (the switch is already there)

Faster than multiple klicks on the wheel buttons

Come on Terry, this should be matter of 1h devlopment for you to integrate it on a new version of JB4
Y cant you just leave it on the map you would race a fararri on?

Chances are you are the only person that would want something like that. So just a one off jb4 for you isnt really a good business move.


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Default 05-18-2011, 04:50 AM

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Y cant you just leave it on the map you would race a fararri on?

Chances are you are the only person that would want something like that. So just a one off jb4 for you isnt really a good business move.
That's the thing though, Terry is so much more about customer service than anything else. I could see him trying to make this happen for one or two people just trying to make EVERYONE happy. Personally, I would like to see him keep his eyes on the prize. Like a super car 550 whp 93oct map on a bone stock car!!! OK, that might be a bit much but you get the drift.
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Default 05-18-2011, 05:33 AM

This switch would be the most pointless mod ever. I did check to see how long it takes to switch maps, and it was indeed right at 2 seconds.


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Default 05-18-2011, 05:36 AM

I smell a Troll.... or someone who came from a mustang using the SCT flip-switch
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Default 05-18-2011, 07:59 AM

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That's the thing though, Terry is so much more about customer service than anything else. I could see him trying to make this happen for one or two people just trying to make EVERYONE happy.
My comment was not meant to put down terry at all. He cares very much about his customers and I greatly appreciate his work and dedication to this platform. I was just saying the map switching is as good as it needs to be. To switch maps in my other car I have to completely reflash the computer. That takes a few minutes and the car cant be moving!

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Personally, I would like to see him keep his eyes on the prize. Like a super car 550 whp 93oct map on a bone stock car!!! OK, that might be a bit much but you get the drift.
I have the same goal minus the stock part! A lot of the car guys I cruise with drive 600+ WHP street cars. I would like to get to that level someday in the future.


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Default 05-18-2011, 08:13 AM

I have a feature request: I'd like to be able to check the status of the auto tuning avgign parameter without hooking up a laptop.

I've been varying my octane, trying 91, 91+NOS booster, 95, and 100, and watching what happens on map 5, trying to find a sweet spot. Weather is a factor too, so I'd like to check avgign more regularly without having to fire up the interface.
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Default 05-18-2011, 12:37 PM

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Im willing to bet I can change from map 5 to map 7 using my steering wheels controls faster than most can reach in to their glove box, feel for and find the switch and then switch it.....

The steering wheel controld literally takes 2 seconds to change a map.

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Default 05-18-2011, 01:27 PM

No immediate plans to add a hardwire map switch. Maybe some day when time permits. But we have better uses for those extra JB4 I/O...


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Default 05-18-2011, 01:41 PM

FAQ indicates that 1,4,5 are action menu where it will reset once you performed the action.

in the last spread sheet for 4/22 menu 4 seems to start at 4 or 5 to indicate CAN stat ?? is this a typo??

one more question when you toggle menu 5-6 how do you know if you are toggling to off or on without actually running a test drive.
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Default 05-18-2011, 01:43 PM

Yeah I'll remove that from the FAQ. For stealth mode if you forget the setting only way to know is to test drive.


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Default 05-19-2011, 07:31 PM

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Yeah I'll remove that from the FAQ. For stealth mode if you forget the setting only way to know is to test drive.
Just blip the throttle in neutral easiest way


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Default 05-20-2011, 03:32 AM

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Yeah I'll remove that from the FAQ. For stealth mode if you forget the setting only way to know is to test drive.
Speaking of the stealth mode, it's a little disconcerting seeing my fuel gauge suddenly come back when I lift. If I'm driving enthusiastically chances are I'm going to be pressing the pedal again once I get out of the corner. Is there scope for adding some hysteresis to the gauge hijacking timing, so that it holds in gauge hijacked mode for some time after lifting?
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Default 05-20-2011, 10:28 AM

It's certainly possible if demand is there.


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Default 05-20-2011, 10:33 AM

I think a 2 second delay would be great!


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Default 05-20-2011, 04:51 PM

I like the idea of the stealth gauge staying active for an extra 2 seconds also. I think it might also be better to see them come on a little sooner than 80% throttle. Maybe more like 70 or even 60% because during normal driving, I'm hardly ever more than 50% throttle.
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