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Default 02-11-2011, 11:16 AM

It's in the first post.


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Default 02-11-2011, 11:22 AM

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how do you set auto PID on?
11) Enabled adaptive PID / feed forward scaling. Set FutureUseD = 2 to enable. System learning is on at wide open throttle from 4500rpm to 6700rpm in 3rd and 4th gear.




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Default 02-11-2011, 02:21 PM

Terry,

On one of the videos you had posted on YT you talked about something called "MaxCool". Is that something that is in JB4 now or something that might come later on?


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I'm not the best map reader but what's with all of the throttle closure at high RPMs? Is that normal?
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Default 02-11-2011, 03:04 PM

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how do you set auto PID on?
What is Auto Pid?

Is there a manual for all of these settings? How to get "shift lights" in and working? I'm clueless what an "alpha Interface" is and how one uses it and for what.

I will be sticking with the basics given my technical limitations. While I could understand the "press down the gas pedal" instructions that came with the JB3, this JB4 seems more complicated and it's a little intimidating. So I'll stick with map three(?) but I would like to understand more about the more complicated things too. I'm seeing thread one evolve and it's really helping. Thanks Terry.

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Default 02-11-2011, 03:06 PM

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What is Auto Pid?

Is there a manual for all of these settings? How to get "shift lights" in and working? I'm clueless what an "alpha Interface" is and how one uses it and for what.

I will be sticking with the basics given my technical limitations. While I could understand the "press down the gas pedal" instructions that came with the JB3, this JB4 seems more complicated and it's a little intimidating. So I'll stick with map three(?) but I would like to understand more about the more complicated things too. I'm seeing thread one evolve and it's really helping. Thanks Terry.

Questions aside, I got to hand it to Terry for the best price/value ratio and the best customer service in the biz.
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Default 02-11-2011, 03:43 PM

What is configure guages in speedo 5?

Configure them to do what?
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Default 02-11-2011, 03:53 PM

I'm sure it's been asked and answered, I just don't have time to look through 49 pages of posts...sorry, please forgive me.

What does PID stand for and what does Auto PID do???


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Default 02-11-2011, 04:27 PM

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Terry,

On one of the videos you had posted on YT you talked about something called "MaxCool". Is that something that is in JB4 now or something that might come later on?
It's off for now until we fix a bug with it.


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Default 02-11-2011, 04:40 PM

Added a FAQ section to the first post and I'll start filling it in as you guys ask questions.


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JUst installed but cant access the steering controls, any ideas? Not throwing any codes though
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Default 02-11-2011, 05:12 PM

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11) Enabled adaptive PID / feed forward scaling. Set FutureUseD = 2 to enable. System learning is on at wide open throttle from 4500rpm to 6700rpm in 3rd and 4th gear.
Terry,

mind clearing the PID learning statement up a bit?

-adaptive PID will ONLY take effect after a couple runs in 3rd and fourth at the stated RPM ranges?
-will third gear runs suffice or will proper calculations only be made if both third and fourth are "ran through"
-will future updates alter the adaptation system? i can see how nearly redlining in fourth gear is not something the average user can do a few times. even the third gear run may require some track time to keep things legal.
-once the adaptations are in effect and all calculations are made, what differences should we be noticing?

edit: whoops, i see the last question was already answered in the first post FAQ
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Default 02-11-2011, 05:23 PM

does anyone know if the autoclear (option 1/3) gets reset when you switch the jb4 to map zero? or will it turn on when i go back to map 2. Or do i have to turn it on manually everytime i go from 0 to a map? thanks
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It turns off when on map 0 but does not reset. So when you go back to map 2 it turns back on.


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Default 02-11-2011, 06:02 PM

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Terry,

mind clearing the PID learning statement up a bit?

-adaptive PID will ONLY take effect after a couple runs in 3rd and fourth at the stated RPM ranges?
-will third gear runs suffice or will proper calculations only be made if both third and fourth are "ran through"
-will future updates alter the adaptation system? i can see how nearly redlining in fourth gear is not something the average user can do a few times. even the third gear run may require some track time to keep things legal.
-once the adaptations are in effect and all calculations are made, what differences should we be noticing?

edit: whoops, i see the last question was already answered in the first post FAQ
It's setup to be seamless to the end user. So turn it on (or wait for the next release which has it on by default) and do your thing. If you happen to get going fast enough for it to learn then it will. If not it won't. The "guess" settings we have defaulted are pretty close for most applications. It's just nice to give it a chance to fine tune itself to your particular situation as legal means to do so present themselves.


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Default 02-11-2011, 07:18 PM

hi terry, for the auto PID, do we have to run in both 3rd and 4th in order to let it learn? or can we just run in 3rd and it will learn?


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Default 02-11-2011, 08:23 PM

Hey Terry thanks for the FAQ, it helps out a metric $h!t ton, lolz. New question, what does the map 4 do for us? Just curious what the point of a stock map with CAN turned on is, are there other things we can do to the system with the CAN turned on? Thanks Terry!
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Default 02-11-2011, 08:54 PM

Map 4 is for diagnostics at the moment. Soon will be the economy map. And 3rd gear runs are fine for autopid.


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Default 02-12-2011, 05:24 AM

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It turns off when on map 0 but does not reset. So when you go back to map 2 it turns back on.
Ah. Very cool. So, the JB4 holds the setting dependent upon the specific map at which you set it. That seems like something to add to the instruction and/or FAQ.

Related to the FAQ, if it's not in there, can you add a little more detail about which codes the code clearing wipes automatically and which it leaves? I remember reading somewhere, I think, that it keeps codes that you would want to have thrown and need to investigate, but just deletes the ones that will get you yelled at?
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11) Enabled adaptive PID / feed forward scaling. Set FutureUseD = 2 to enable. System learning is on at wide open throttle from 4500rpm to 6700rpm in 3rd and 4th gear.
Ok, I admit I am a complete newb when it comes to this stuff. I want to learn though so i just have to ask...... Wth is FuteruseD? How do you make it = 2 to turn on PID?

I know most of these options aren't for the casual user and most of us should just plug in, set it and be done with it... But I am interested in learning this.
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Ok, I admit I am a complete newb when it comes to this stuff. I want to learn though so i just have to ask...... Wth is FuteruseD? How do you make it = 2 to turn on PID?

I know most of these options aren't for the casual user and most of us should just plug in, set it and be done with it... But I am interested in learning this.
In the JB4 interface, just put a 2 in the box FutureUseD box (default is 0), save it, and that will enable the AdaptivePID.


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Default 02-12-2011, 09:08 AM

Ok so this isn't a seating to make from the steering wheel controls. I don't have a PC so I've never seen the interface.
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In the JB4 interface, just put a 2 in the box FutureUseD box (default is 0), save it, and that will enable the AdaptivePID.
I have problems connecting to the JB4 interface. I tried several com ports but they all failed. I didn't try all 99 channels though - tells me it failed to connect. Could anyone help please
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Do you get the connected usb sound when you plug into your computer? Maybe the usb cable came off the JB4.


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For the port you're supposed to check under device manager to see what number it was assigned too. If it's not listed you probably have a driver problem, etc, with the laptop.


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