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Default 04-07-2022, 10:58 AM

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Just the brown cord itself or the whole harness from the end of the brown cord to the JB4 unit? If it's the brown cord itself, it is definitely not 4 feet. It's more like 2 feet (or less).
Hmm, very odd.

You can send it back to us so we can inspect and extend it for you if you'd like.


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Default 04-08-2022, 04:18 PM

Can anyone better explain how to install the BMS intake? The instructions online are very confusing when it comes to attaching the intake tube to the turbo inlet.
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Default 04-08-2022, 04:40 PM

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Can anyone better explain how to install the BMS intake? The instructions online are very confusing when it comes to attaching the intake tube to the turbo inlet.
Remove the OEM tube and install the BMS tube the same way, tighten the clamp and tighten bolt on the stud holding the bracket.

Pretty straight forward install.


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Default 04-08-2022, 05:01 PM

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Remove the OEM tube and install the BMS tube the same way, tighten the clamp and tighten bolt on the stud holding the bracket.

Pretty straight forward install.
I did that but the BMS tube fits crooked. Here’s a picture - https://imgur.com/gallery/dHMaHTU
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Default 04-08-2022, 05:25 PM

Mine fit like that as well.
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Default 04-08-2022, 06:59 PM

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I did that but the BMS tube fits crooked. Here’s a picture - https://imgur.com/gallery/dHMaHTU
Looks like the tube is not flush to me. Loosen the hose clamp a bit, and wiggle the pipe until it is flush with the coupler, then re tighten the clamp
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Default 04-08-2022, 09:41 PM

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Mine fit like that as well.
Did you wind up fixing it? Or leaving it?
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Default 04-08-2022, 10:00 PM

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I did that but the BMS tube fits crooked. Here’s a picture
I had the same issue with mine, the tube would need about 1/2” more length to really fit the coupler and the bend would need to be slightly more. The welded tab was also placed pretty poorly to where I had to elongate the hole in the bracket otherwise there was no way it would have reached the coupling on the turbo. The components are all nice quality but I think it needs a little further engineering & QC.


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Default 04-08-2022, 10:21 PM

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I had the same issue with mine, the tube would need about 1/2” more length to really fit the coupler and the bend would need to be slightly more. The welded tab was also placed pretty poorly to where I had to elongate the hole in the bracket otherwise there was no way it would have reached the coupling on the turbo. The components are all nice quality but I think it needs a little further engineering & QC.
Yah QC could use a bit of help here honestly. The screws to hold the MAF sensor into the housing simply didn’t fit either.
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Default 04-09-2022, 05:28 PM

Payam,

This is the last connector that I'm having trouble dislodging. Do I need to cut any adhesive tape off in order to detach the connector next to the intercooler? It appears as though there's some electrical tape or something similar holding it in place.

I did successfully pop off the panel in the bumper that allows me this view and access to the connector.


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Dry fitted the wire routing for my CX-5 this morning:
- JB4 on top of driver's side fuse box cover about 1cm from outer edge of fuse box cover and as forward as possible. Cables running toward front bumper. Will mount with strong double sided tape.
- Bluetooth module on top of fuse box cover as far away from JB4 as possible to avoid minor bluetooth connectivity issues
- MAF sensor looks super easy on the airbox if the cable mount pops off.
- MAP sensor wires routed along drivers side front and under hood air intake and along existing large cable loom off the radiator.
- Manifold MAP sensor is right on the center/front of the engine, so easy to access.
- Lower MAP sensor - routed brown wire to passenger side just past the radiator and then down to the intercooler. I've got big hands so still trying see if I can do the lower MAP sensor through the front grill -- will see.
- OBDII will go through the firewall, looks easy.

Did you have a chance to finish install? I've got my layout pretty similar to what you've got diagrammed out but having issues with the last portion of the connector next to the intercooler.
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Payam,

This is the last connector that I'm having trouble dislodging. Do I need to cut any adhesive tape off in order to detach the connector next to the intercooler? It appears as though there's some electrical tape or something similar holding it in place.

I did successfully pop off the panel in the bumper that allows me this view and access to the connector.
https://imgur.com/a/bzhJ6xo
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Default 04-10-2022, 01:06 AM

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Payam,

This is the last connector that I'm having trouble dislodging. Do I need to cut any adhesive tape off in order to detach the connector next to the intercooler? It appears as though there's some electrical tape or something similar holding it in place.

I did successfully pop off the panel in the bumper that allows me this view and access to the connector.

Mine is a 6, it has the same connector, you dont have to cut anything, the tape does not hold the connector into the sensor it just seems to hold the wires together, the connector should unplug just like the other 2, its juat a little tight, try pressing the connector lock and get a flat head screwdriver and lodge it between the connector and the sensor and try to use it as a lever to push the connector outward, it should just pop out a little and you can then pull it out with your hand, this worked well for me, good luck and try not to break anything
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Default 04-10-2022, 09:18 AM

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Yah QC could use a bit of help here honestly. The screws to hold the MAF sensor into the housing simply didn’t fit either.
Sounds like we packed the wrong screws? If anything like that comes up just let us know and we'll get it sorted.


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Default 04-10-2022, 09:19 AM

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I had the same issue with mine, the tube would need about 1/2” more length to really fit the coupler and the bend would need to be slightly more. The welded tab was also placed pretty poorly to where I had to elongate the hole in the bracket otherwise there was no way it would have reached the coupling on the turbo. The components are all nice quality but I think it needs a little further engineering & QC.
Interesting, didn't have any issues with that on ours. We'll look in to making the tube 1/2" longer next batch though.


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Default 04-11-2022, 06:17 AM

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I did that but the BMS tube fits crooked. Here’s a picture - https://imgur.com/gallery/dHMaHTU
It takes a bit finesse, dry fitting everything with clamps loose, moving the tube around, but I was able to get mine pretty close (I made a post about it #1028 here).
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Default 04-11-2022, 10:21 AM

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I did that but the BMS tube fits crooked. Here’s a picture - https://imgur.com/gallery/dHMaHTU
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Yah QC could use a bit of help here honestly. The screws to hold the MAF sensor into the housing simply didn’t fit either.
I will look into our jig and see if there's some discrepancy between the one we have on our car and the production made ones.

Hmm, I know the threads are tight but it should be the correct ones. We don't have any other screws that size in our facility and use that same screw set between all our platforms. If you reach out to our support@burgertuning.com team with pictures we'll get you sorted in no time.


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Payam,

This is the last connector that I'm having trouble dislodging. Do I need to cut any adhesive tape off in order to detach the connector next to the intercooler? It appears as though there's some electrical tape or something similar holding it in place.

I did successfully pop off the panel in the bumper that allows me this view and access to the connector.

Since that connector is down where dirt/debris gets accumulated, it can be tough to get it loose. Usually a small flathead to lift the locking tab can help as well while pushing down and pulling.


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So got my MAF Sensor Plug installed, and my wiring cleaned up a little. The harness needs to be a foot longer for a good clean install. I wanted to mount it to the back side of my intake, but the harness is not long enough. Snapped some pics for you 6 guys.
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So I know this has been asked somewhere before in these 48 pages and I apologize but how can I tell if I have the beta harness or the good harness? My connections seemed good going in but I also wasn't one who installed it. Which connections do I have to look at?
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So I know this has been asked somewhere before in these 48 pages and I apologize but how can I tell if I have the beta harness or the good harness? My connections seemed good going in but I also wasn't one who installed it. Which connections do I have to look at?
The BETA MAF connectors we hand modified were for the Mazda3 applications, not CX.


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So got my MAF Sensor Plug installed, and my wiring cleaned up a little. The harness needs to be a foot longer for a good clean install. I wanted to mount it to the back side of my intake, but the harness is not long enough. Snapped some pics for you 6 guys.
Photos are lower res, what needs to be extended for that placement, the brown connection?


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So the fitment on the cx-30 wasn't even close, don't own one, just curious
I have the stage 1 on my CX30, no problems...cannot comment on the stage 2 though.
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So I know this has been asked somewhere before in these 48 pages and I apologize but how can I tell if I have the beta harness or the good harness? My connections seemed good going in but I also wasn't one who installed it. Which connections do I have to look at?
If the MAF sensor connector is cut up and looks modified, then you have old beta. If its new, you have... The new connector
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Default 04-14-2022, 05:59 AM

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Photos are lower res, what needs to be extended for that placement, the brown connection?
The harness from the two plugs on the left side to the actual JB4. So I'd guess you'd say the whole harness, except for the MAF, that was fine. You run into the problem when going over, or under the intake inlet. Sorry about the photos, thats the minimum size it would let me upload.
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The harness from the two plugs on the left side to the actual JB4. So I'd guess you'd say the whole harness, except for the MAF, that was fine. You run into the problem when going over, or under the intake inlet. Sorry about the photos, thats the minimum size it would let me upload.
OK we'll keep that in mind next time we do a harness run.


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