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Default 12-20-2017, 02:07 PM

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You forgot the most important thing, what fuel?
Sorry it's running 93 pump fuel
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Default 12-20-2017, 02:28 PM

Why are you using port injection and meth? For pump fuels you'd want to use a good meth kit. No need for PI.


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Default 12-21-2017, 12:12 AM

Hi Terry
new logging with WOT -car F30 N55 PWG - 2013- JB4 - Pure stage 2 - Down Pipe & aFe
pls let me have your recommendations .. thx
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Default 12-21-2017, 09:25 AM

Boost targets are too low to evaluate. The map2 log doesn't have much full throttle.


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Why are you using port injection and meth? For pump fuels you'd want to use a good meth kit. No need for PI.
Hi Terry actually my target is around 500 WHP so I was
Afraid from fuel

Do you mean that extra fuel causing kind of limitations and what is excepted Afr for that kind of setup

BTW I am running a flash tune on my ECU not a stock file
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Hi Terry actually my target is around 500 WHP so I was
Afraid from fuel

Do you mean that extra fuel causing kind of limitations and what is excepted Afr for that kind of setup

BTW I am running a flash tune on my ECU not a stock file
The PI just complicates things if you are on pump gas already running WMI. Better to have a properly setup WMI kit with JB4 monitoring meth flow and progressively adding boost as a function of that flow.


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Default 12-21-2017, 06:34 PM

At about 4K in fifth if I go WOT, the car will buck and throw a superknocking injector shutdown code. Obviously this concerns me, but if I ease into it in fifth and then open her up around 5.5 K it really doesn't happen so I'm hoping that its not a standing issue but rather me just demanding too much from the engine at a "lower" RPM in fifth gear. (running map 7 in iso with PS2, stock TMAP). I can say that in third and fourth when I do this from a "lower RPM" it is totally fine. The word "super" is concerning to me, any thoughts out there?


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Default 12-21-2017, 06:35 PM

Log of the specific issue? If you have major knock codes that's normally very bad.


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Default 12-21-2017, 06:44 PM

Wasn't able to catch it in a log since it doesn't happen normally, also didn't want to try to induce it again since it scared me. Only happens in fifth, could I be demanding too much boost for my octane or for the gear at a specific RPM?


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Should I even be able to go WOT at 3k or 4k in 5th gear without any issues?


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Default FW version ? - 12-22-2017, 01:51 AM

frimware :
16/7//3 this mean ver T_3

i saw it on my log


btw i remember my last FW was t_6

How can I check which version I have installed ?

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Default JB went wrong - 12-22-2017, 11:15 AM

Something went wrong ...
Map 5 The unstable stable AFR Very low
TRIM is very high

What could be the problem ?


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Default 12-22-2017, 12:05 PM

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Should I even be able to go WOT at 3k or 4k in 5th gear without any issues?
Absolutely.


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Something went wrong ...
Map 5 The unstable stable AFR Very low
TRIM is very high

What could be the problem ?
Doesn't look that off to me?


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Default 12-22-2017, 12:26 PM

afr down from 12 and trim up over 40

its Never happened

now it map 6

my FOL set to 50 ( run with 98 octane)


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Default dme_bt drop - 12-23-2017, 03:43 PM

look at my log dme_bt drop my trim high
i set fOL to 70

but its not help ( trim )

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afr down from 12 and trim up over 40

its Never happened

now it map 6

my FOL set to 50 ( run with 98 octane)
AFR and trims are indexed on DME BT so if DME changes that then expect a matching change to the AFR and fuel trims. Randomly changing DME BT is something we expect to resolve with the back end flash map.


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Default 12-23-2017, 04:12 PM

i never flash my dme its stock


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Default 12-24-2017, 12:57 AM

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Hi Terry

How to go about now on my ISO settings

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Can you do a good log in map2 and share that?
Still working on trying to get a full log in fifth gear in a safe area, it's been hard with weather. The attached though, is a log in fourth gear in map 2. Maybe that will lend some insight. So far, its been good to go with no ability to reproduce symptoms in fifth gear. Lesson learned about trying to get too much boost! Now if there is some looming issue like a failing injector or crappy coil pack, then that could still be possible I suppose, but I would have no way of knowing for now.


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Default 12-25-2017, 02:47 AM

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I see that you have the same problem as in my TRIM high and low AFR


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Default 12-25-2017, 10:20 AM

How do you like having BM3 and JB4 stacked?


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I see that you have the same problem as in my TRIM high and low AFR
let us hear from Terry - my JB4 stage 2 board is the 1st one released ..its an earlier log

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let us hear from Terry - my JB4 stage 2 board is the 1st one released ..its an earlier log
This log looks good to me, although it's not really full throttle.


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Not prime-logs, but as per file description I did two experiments. All with flat 12.1psi map6.

Adder10 fuel bias100: With flow 12.1 to 13.5
Adder30 fuel bias stepped 40-60-80: With flow 12.1 to 14.9 to 16.3

Hope this can help you fine tune the feature
It seems to be generally working as intended looking at the log. Now it's just a matter of how much meth fluid you want to dial in at different engine speeds.


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