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Default 02-13-2011, 11:09 AM

Hi Terry, will there be an option to recalibrate the gauge controls for METRIC panels?
I know that the speedo has a different top-speed between imperial and metric (and metric gauges don't have any imperial markings) so I assume the set-points will be off on the JB4 configuration mode as well.
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Default 02-13-2011, 11:10 AM

We have options for those on menu 5.


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Default 02-13-2011, 11:15 AM

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We have options for those on menu 5.
Didn't notice you added the FAQ section.

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Default 02-13-2011, 12:09 PM

Terry, what will be (in your opinion) the best and safest meth kit to run with the JB4? I know it has progressive meth so I am just curious. Are there any new kits we should wait for? Thanks!
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Default 02-13-2011, 12:15 PM

We sell and support the CM progressive kits. The new trunk mount fully integrated kit is nice and pretty easy to install. And compatible with 70/30 meth mixtures and soon hopefully compatible with 100% meth too.

I've had some customers email asking if they can use the $250 basic kit and just mount the pump in the engine bay and push the pickup in the washer fluid res. We've tried it before and it didn't work consistently but I'll do more testing. That would be a nice "ease of install" option if we can get the pump sucking properly.


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Default 02-13-2011, 12:22 PM

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We sell and support the CM progressive kits. The new trunk mount fully integrated kit is nice and pretty easy to install. And compatible with 70/30 meth mixtures and soon hopefully compatible with 100% meth too.

I've had some customers email asking if they can use the $250 basic kit and just mount the pump in the engine bay and push the pickup in the washer fluid res. We've tried it before and it didn't work consistently but I'll do more testing. That would be a nice "ease of install" option if we can get the pump sucking properly.

Okay, thanks! I emailed you some logs earlier, hope they werent too long. If they are just tell me and I will shorten them!
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Default 02-13-2011, 02:13 PM

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You probably made an install mistake and have no CAN access. I've seen it a few times.
Fixed - Yeah sure enough I had a loose wire on the CAN BUS.
thanks-
BTW as everyone has already said, the thing feels great-Map2 with my mods and 100 octane- this thing flys!
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Default 02-13-2011, 02:29 PM

Glad it was an easy fix! At the moment we only offer the JB4 new in the PnP format. Sort of afraid to offer it in pin out just due to the support needs with the new connections being so critical. We'll see.


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Default 02-13-2011, 03:16 PM

Really got to open it open today. Map 7 with Meth the car has never felt this strong, car just keeps pulling. Really loving how the car is running. I am seeing over 18psi on my vent gauge, going to do a log tonight to see if my gauge is off.


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Default 02-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Definitely log and get a progressive pickup working. MUCH much safer that way on meth using map 3. Faster too.


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Default 02-13-2011, 05:09 PM

man, wish i was brave enough to go the meth route
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wow! i been gone one month and have an assload to catch up on...
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Default Oil Cooler - 02-13-2011, 07:00 PM

Hi,

09 335xi, never plan on tracking her just want to able to have more fun. The car does not have a oil cooler, I know the software adjusts the boost based on oil temp, but what map could I safely run assuming JB4, DCI, and *** back exhaust.

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Default 02-13-2011, 07:13 PM

Terry,

Is PID currently active on the upgrade units you're currently sending out?
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Default 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM

Nope. Default is 0. But with the next update we'll turn it on by default. Nothing but positive results with it have been reported.


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Default 02-13-2011, 07:31 PM

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man, wish i was brave enough to go the meth route
The idea is growing on me, I think im going to go for it. I just hope its easy enough to uninstall for a dealer visit. I want the integrated coolingmist from the BMS website. Can anyone comment on the length of install.

BTW - The JB4 is running great, it is so much faster and smoother!
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Default 02-13-2011, 10:17 PM

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I've had some customers email asking if they can use the $250 basic kit and just mount the pump in the engine bay and push the pickup in the washer fluid res. We've tried it before and it didn't work consistently but I'll do more testing. That would be a nice "ease of install" option if we can get the pump sucking properly.
great news!
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Default 02-13-2011, 10:39 PM

I was reading firmware 20/1 updates ,terry mentions on the second point that he changed the boost limit for the first and the second gear ,how would this affect my take off (0-100)? any one tried this?

how about the adaptive PID? is this enabled by default on the new firmware?
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Default 02-14-2011, 12:24 AM

what is PID???
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Default 02-14-2011, 12:30 AM

FAQ

What is adaptive PID?

Adaptive PID is not the same as full "autotuning", but it's an important component to it. It's an algorithm to adapt the boost control to your cars specific wastegate stiffness, mods, local conditions, etc. We'll be building upon it in future releases while we simultaneously add the other components needed.

As you do subsequent WOT pulls you'll see the FFMAX value under user settings adjust itself between 0-130. This represents how much of the duty cycle increase is fixed/hits instantly and how much is variable through the PID process. Ideally you want most of the increase to come through the fixed/feed forward as it will result in you hitting your target much faster than waiting for the PID to integrate to it. But if the value is overly aggressive you'll get overshoot and throttle closure. So the adaptive PID ranges FFMAX based on historic data collected during WOT runs. Right now its ranging one value which scales the entire 3D curve but the next step on adaptive PID will be to have it learn on a cel by cel basis (rpm, gear, target).
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Default 02-14-2011, 01:35 AM

its mentioned on the first page of this thread...but i am curious to know if any one tried this with the new firmware, any change to take off(0-100)? ,hows the driving experience with this option enabled?
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Default 02-14-2011, 07:10 AM

Love CmGs with jb4 and Map 3. Pid is adjusting nicely! I see PID change when I swap fmic's, use richer mixes of meth, and add octane boost. Car is so friggin fast that without a dyno or a time slip, it's hard to say how well its working. My car is getting ready to hit 70K. It's my DD and been JB tuned since 30K. 1/4 mile runs from a stop scare me now so I rely on my butt dyno more and more.
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Default 02-14-2011, 09:32 AM

I have configured the future use option = 2

Where it is configured in 1 st and 2 nd gear, is 10 psi (or configuration that is suitable for the 0-100m) ???

I use map 3 (methanol progressive)


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Default 02-14-2011, 12:54 PM

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I have configured the future use option = 2

Where it is configured in 1 st and 2 nd gear, is 10 psi (or configuration that is suitable for the 0-100m) ???

I use map 3 (methanol progressive)
+1 (minus the meth part). I thought it was under the 1st and 2nd gear boost redux? I set those at 10.0 and they still go above 12-13 PSI in 1st and 2nd.


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