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jpsimon 10-05-2017 08:00 AM

Clutch delay valve modification
 
A couple people have said that on the 340 BMW built the CDV into the cylinder itself... but i can't actually find the source of this info.

Maybe one of you can help me figure this out... take a look here:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=21_0260

Is #13 from that diagram the CDV? Here is a photo of that part:
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/21526864478/

If that is the CDV, we should easily be able to modify/delete it.. no?

jpsimon 06-19-2018 07:21 AM

Bumping this thread.

Someone just responded to my post on another forum. He successfully solved this problem. This is definitely something I plan on doing:


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Originally Posted by Remonster
I finally got around to deleting my 340i CDV after a thread on that other BMW forum. Long story short, Yes you can do it, yes you should do it, and it’s very easy.

If you disconnect the inlet line going into the clutch slave cylinder: you’ll see a silver metal restrictor plate with a TINY hole in it and a black rubber piece that holds that metal restrictor in place. The first guy who found this out said he drilled his to have a larger hole but I decided to just throw away the metal restrictor and rubber piece. The line has its own o-ring that seals it so you don’t need these other two pieces. Just throw them away, re-connect the line, flush your fluid and you’re done. The shifting experience is night and day better. Not only is it so much smoother and easier to avoid jerky shifts, the clutch feels like it holds a lot more torque. I was having slipping issues with my car (only power mod is MPPSK) when launching but that has gone away entirely.

So far, the couple people who have done this including myself took the clutch slave out of the car. I suspect you may be able to leave it in the car and use a pick to pull out the restrictor and rubber piece but it will not be easy. I don’t think anyone has tried that yet to be sure. Taking the slave out and putting it back is a little bit of a pain but done within an hour or two on a lift with proper tools. It’s just difficult to reach the top bolt if I remember correctly.

In response to me wondering if #13 in that part list was the CDV he says:

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#13 is NOT the CDV. I had the same theory so I bought one to inspect and it has zero restriction in it. The only restriction is at the inlet to the slave and removing that gave me a heavier pedal with immediate response. I’m loving it. You may also want to get rid of the clutch pedal return spring while you’re trying to improve your shifting experience.

I asked him "Did you have a shift delay when going WOT and say shifting from 3rd to 4th? And if so, did this fix it? Back when I had my n54 there was a noticeable delay when shifting until the cdv was modified." and he says:

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Yes and yes, the delay valve makes sure that the clutch engages later and slower than what you're trying to do with your left foot. Now, the clutch seems to follow your foot immediately and it just GRABS even when you're being aggressive with it.

Payam @ BMS 06-19-2018 08:00 AM

You should do it and let us know!

jpsimon 06-19-2018 08:47 AM

Not sure when i'll have time to get on a lift but i definitely plan on doing it sooner than later

babyboss 08-05-2018 01:19 PM

Any after effects once removed ?

any warrantee issues if bmw sees this !

jpsimon 08-06-2018 07:22 AM

Haven't had a chance to do it yet. But if you read the quotes from the guy who did from my post up above, he says it makes a big difference.

ZTZ1010 08-06-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon (Post )
Haven't had a chance to do it yet. But if you read the quotes from the guy who did from my post up above, he says it makes a big difference.

You're in CT right? Would love to get together and do both cars at some point

jpsimon 08-06-2018 02:40 PM

Whereabouts in CT are you? I was just going to have my shop do it at some point, it kind of sounds like a pain in the ass to do the bleeding with this car

ZTZ1010 08-07-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon (Post )
Whereabouts in CT are you? I was just going to have my shop do it at some point, it kind of sounds like a pain in the ass to do the bleeding with this car

I'm in Norwalk. Which shop do you use? I think we've run in the same circles a few times with past cars...

jpsimon 08-07-2018 08:23 AM

i'm up in Milford. I've just gone to this local german/foreign car service place (Helmuts Foreign Car Service) for a while now for everything from standard oil changes to installing my upgraded turbos on the old n54. It's not like a performance shop or anything, but the dude does good work.

ZTZ1010 08-09-2018 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon (Post )
i'm up in Milford. I've just gone to this local german/foreign car service place (Helmuts Foreign Car Service) for a while now for everything from standard oil changes to installing my upgraded turbos on the old n54. It's not like a performance shop or anything, but the dude does good work.

let me know if you pull the trigger on doing this, I'd come up and he could bang both out


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