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Terry @ BMS 10-19-2017 03:21 PM

Mild Pure Stage2 N54 dyno
 
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Hey guys,

Had a chance to see how our E92 is running in its latest incarnation as a mild hybrid turbo setup.

Setup:
JB4, off the shelf E85 hybrid back end flash map
Manual trans w/ steel flywheel and 335is/550 clutch
Pure Stage2 turbos w/ silicon inlets
Fuel-IT port injection rail and low pressure system
BMS DCI, OCC, and other little bolt on modifications
CPE intercooler
Phoenix chargepipe w/ Tial valve
Factory catback
Factory motor
Running ~E80

At 20psi (map7) it made ~530whp, ~24psi 600whp, ~25psi 615whp.

And the best part is the car runs and drives like stock. We appreciate not everyone is looking to build a 700whp or 800whp setup. I can't think of a better way to run 600whp than what we've done with this setup. :burnrubber:

Payam @ BMS 10-19-2017 06:39 PM

Hell yea, I can't wait to see how it does at SS next weekend!

Steve @ BMS/Fuel-It! 10-19-2017 08:42 PM

Nice DD setup!

Bdhaeh 10-19-2017 09:09 PM

N54 is an absolute beast..

zrjn89 10-19-2017 09:24 PM

Looking to do a similar setup, this looks amazing.

Peter @ Pure 10-19-2017 11:45 PM

Very nice power curve!

THE BEAST 10-20-2017 12:16 AM

Are these "DD" or HiFlows ?

trebila 10-20-2017 02:16 AM

it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)

Payam @ BMS 10-20-2017 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by trebila (Post )
it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)

I think lean spool is enabled, it goes down right when boost hits target.

135iam 10-20-2017 07:21 AM

[QUOTE=Terry @ BMS;564347]Fuel-IT port injection rail and low pressure system
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Fantastic results!!!

Is this the fuel system used? or was a larger LPFP needed to reach these numbers?
http://www.fuel-it.biz/n54-jb4-integrated-for-600whp/

Terry @ BMS 10-20-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by trebila (Post )
it looks super lean until you reach 3500 rpm (right when PI start to flow)

The hybrid map has lean spool enabled. You can disable it if you like, but with the spool up vanos changes and leaner AFR, it does improve spool with hybrids nicely.

AWSAWS 10-20-2017 09:18 AM

Any concerns with prop or drive shafts at those power levels?
I ask because I'm probably at a similar power level and starting to wonder about them.

One poster on another forum seemed to think the DCT that I have is more susceptible to breakages than the manuals.

Terry @ BMS 10-20-2017 09:22 AM

We haven't come across any issues... If you are launching on slicks that is another story, though. People break parts at 400whp on slicks with manuals. :)

e1000usa 10-20-2017 01:10 PM

Are these "DD" or HiFlows ?

roywillems 10-20-2017 01:35 PM

Horsepower whise what would 20psi on octane 93 do?

Zombie1 10-20-2017 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by roywillems (Post )
Horsepower whise what would 20psi on octane 93 do?

480whp+ depending on health of motor and how aggressive the tuning is.

NA55 10-20-2017 07:44 PM

Nice results.. More than enough power for a daily driver..

soccerman1bmw 10-21-2017 10:46 AM

Nice results! any quarter mile times for this car?

ShocknAwe 10-21-2017 02:56 PM

Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.

e1000usa 10-22-2017 12:39 PM

Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.

Terry @ BMS 10-22-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe (Post )
Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.

On the turbos I don't know, you'd have to ask Pure. They've been on there awhile so likely not the latest offerings. Inlets were from RB and are larger for hybrid turbos.

Overall the tuning is fairly well optimized. It can be pushed more aggressively but also with more risk.

ShocknAwe 10-22-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS (Post )
On the turbos I don't know, you'd have to ask Pure. They've been on there awhile so likely not the latest offerings. Inlets were from RB and are larger for hybrid turbos.

Overall the tuning is fairly well optimized. It can be pushed more aggressively but also with more risk.

Cool man, thanks for the reply.

THE BEAST 10-22-2017 07:57 PM

Any csv. file from dyno run ? Any 3rd gear pulls csv. of that car that you could share ?

Pure Turbos 10-23-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe (Post )
Are there any adjustments that would take better advantages of the inlets? Or is the E85Hybrid/Map7 good to go?

All in all, looks great. Would love to know if these are DD/Hiflow, 1.75" vs 2" inlet bands, and what inlets are on the car.

These are the Pure Stg2 HiFlow turbos with 2" inlet. Thank you! :)

chadillac2000 10-23-2017 09:47 AM

How are the clutch/flywheel performing at these power levels? Is the flywheel a SMFW?

THE BEAST 10-23-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pure Turbos (Post )
These are the Pure Stg2 HiFlow turbos with 2" inlet. Thank you! :)

Nice.....nice #s.
What would the "DD" version do approximately with this same set up ?

Jon @ BMS 10-23-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chadillac2000 (Post )
How are the clutch/flywheel performing at these power levels? Is the flywheel a SMFW?

No issues. The flywheel is the MFactory SMFW.

Stw1976 10-23-2017 06:45 PM

I too am wondering about the lpfp. Will stage 2 work fine, or, does in need stage 3 or more. Also, how much chatter is there with that flywheel? Thanks!

Indo Rider 10-24-2017 05:27 AM

Would be cool to see a 60-130 time from this car. :burnrubber:

Pure Turbos 10-24-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by THE BEAST (Post )
Nice.....nice #s.
What would the "DD" version do approximately with this same set up ?

Close to the same. The "DD" turbos are intended for 600whp max. :)

Steve @ PURE 10-24-2017 12:44 PM

Sweet DD setup :burnrubber:

lightning 10-24-2017 07:32 PM

been with Pure in my RHD 1M Coupe for a year and a half and never been happier with the set up! Turbos are trouble free and running strong! Anyway, this is a really informative post as we haven't seen much infomration about N54 Pure Turbos setups. Would love to see more 60-130 and 100-200 timings though! haha and quarter mile runs too!!!!

vitan 10-25-2017 11:37 AM

why it stops at 6500rpm?

skirmozas 10-26-2017 02:48 PM

That power curve is something else, nice setup. I'd like to see some similar setups, but with 93 octane instead. It's still difficult for me to understand what would PI, low pressure and turbo upgrades bring if one just doesn't have access to E85...

guru_method 10-26-2017 02:56 PM

Very nice!

Would you share the screenshots of JB4 settings :3 ?

THE BEAST 10-26-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pure Turbos (Post )
Close to the same. The "DD" turbos are intended for 600whp max. :)

Thank you. I don't want to hijack this thread. I was told not to go beyond 28 PSI on the DD version. That's why I was curious to what power it would make at this level with these modifications. Thank you.

Terry @ BMS 10-26-2017 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by guru_method (Post )
Very nice!

Would you share the screenshots of JB4 settings :3 ?

Default hybrid turbo settings!

guru_method 10-27-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS (Post )
Default hybrid turbo settings!

C'mon let me see the Bias settings :reading:. I need to unleash some power :burnrubber:

Terry @ BMS 10-27-2017 02:52 PM

They are posted here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33200

guru_method 10-27-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS (Post )

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