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aramsey80 10-31-2018 09:33 AM

I know it’s a pain, but could y’all update the first post? I know there are now maps 3,5,7 available, but not mentioned or explained. Thanks.

George @ BMS 10-31-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aramsey80 (Post )
I know its a pain, but could yall update the first post? I know there are now maps 3,5,7 available, but not mentioned or explained. Thanks.

The maps have always been on the units we just don't recommend there use unless someone has capability to check logs when using them.
Map 3 is a mild torque map with a 20psi peak at higher rpm.
Map 5 is 26peak with a taper to 24 (very aggressive)
Map 7 pretty much logs the boost to 27
5 or 7 are typically not what the average users will use if they concerned about turbo longevity.

madspeed 11-01-2018 06:04 AM

I'm running a MAP6 on my 2015 S3. All was well but noticing a hiccup. Not sure if JB4 related or DSG related, but there is now a pretty severe hesitation in the 1-2 shift when taking off and at WOT, very similar to in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefW2GMSaOs

George @ BMS 11-01-2018 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by madspeed (Post )
I'm running a MAP6 on my 2015 S3. All was well but noticing a hiccup. Not sure if JB4 related or DSG related, but there is now a pretty severe hesitation in the 1-2 shift when taking off and at WOT, very similar to in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefW2GMSaOs

Set your max boost 1st value to 17 and see it continues. Typically what is in the video occurs when the car looses traction and the DSG keeps it in gear till speed catches up and then it shifts.

moser7 11-01-2018 03:15 PM

Hi,
What Boost do you recommend now for Map6 if driveability and concernes about the Turbo are needed?
Im at 23 at 4krpm to 5 now, starting with 15 at 1500.
What curve do you recommend @George @ BMS for all day driving?
I think I‘ll have the is38 Turbo in my Cupra 300. I think that makes a Difference to the GTI with the IS20?

Benjamin

George @ BMS 11-02-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by moser7 (Post )
Hi,
What Boost do you recommend now for Map6 if driveability and concernes about the Turbo are needed?
Im at 23 at 4krpm to 5 now, starting with 15 at 1500.
What curve do you recommend @George @ BMS for all day driving?
I think Ill have the is38 Turbo in my Cupra 300. I think that makes a Difference to the GTI with the IS20?

Benjamin

Those are decent enough for longevity of the turbo.
The main killer is spiking the turbo early when it starts to surge up to 3800 which eats up the thrust bearing. You will hear a flutter noise when this occurs and know the spool is too aggressive.

tvw 11-04-2018 04:18 AM

Hi Guys

Is it just me or does the new update for the jb4 not log the load value ?

George @ BMS 11-04-2018 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tvw (Post )
Hi Guys

Is it just me or does the new update for the jb4 not log the load value ?

Load is a internal value and not used on the VAG units.

tvw 11-04-2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Load is a internal value and not used on the VAG units.

Hey George

I could view this prior to the update though ?

George @ BMS 11-04-2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tvw (Post )
Hey George

I could view this prior to the update though ?

Correct. The firmware was cleaned up.

julio 11-04-2018 06:21 PM

Is MAP 2 still the same it was in the first page?
"Map 2: This map is a more aggressive map. Peak boost is set to 24psi with a taper down to 16psi at redline."

George @ BMS 11-04-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by julio (Post )
Is MAP 2 still the same it was in the first page?
"Map 2: This map is a more aggressive map. Peak boost is set to 24psi with a taper down to 16psi at redline."

Correct. The actual boost will vary based on intake temperature so in the colder months you will see less boost. Its a additive map so its add 5.4psi peak over stock.

julio 11-04-2018 06:36 PM

If I try the any maps like 2, 6 or 7, is trere any protection for unsafe knock or bad afr?
Will JB4 change itself to a safer map with less boost?

George @ BMS 11-05-2018 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by julio (Post )
If I try the any maps like 2, 6 or 7, is trere any protection for unsafe knock or bad afr?
Will JB4 change itself to a safer map with less boost?


The ECU will pull timing if it knocks and the JB4 will map switch to map 4 if it runs lean if the ECU does not intervene first. Generally map 7 is set far to aggressive for a stock turbo.

moser7 11-12-2018 01:40 PM

What is the Limit for a Stock Turbo IS20 and also for the IS38 in your Opinion?

Benjamin

George @ BMS 11-12-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by moser7 (Post )
What is the Limit for a Stock Turbo IS20 and also for the IS38 in your Opinion?

Benjamin

26psi taper to 22 on both with 22 being considered very aggressive. You also dont want to spool it too fast where you get compressor surge which most enthusiasts are calling DV flutter.

moser7 11-14-2018 01:24 PM

Sorry,

I Unterstand, that in the Midrange the Max is 26 and decreases to 22 at redline?
Next days i make a Screenshot of my current map6 and Post it here for discussion.
Im on 23 at 3,5 to 5,5 going to 17 on Redline.

George @ BMS 11-14-2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moser7 (Post )
Sorry,

I Unterstand, that in the Midrange the Max is 26 and decreases to 22 at redline?
Next days i make a Screenshot of my current map6 and Post it here for discussion.
Im on 23 at 3,5 to 5,5 going to 17 on Redline.

On the Cupra the boost is generally lower and the car seems to run better with lower boost. There seems to be more torque limitation so we normally dont set these too aggressive.

moser7 11-14-2018 02:59 PM

Ok, but i have a dsg tune working, so the torque Limit of the dsg shoult set to nearly 550 Nm. Or are there more Torque limiting things?

Best regards,

Benjamin

George @ BMS 11-14-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moser7 (Post )
Ok, but i have a dsg tune working, so the torque Limit of the dsg shoult set to nearly 550 Nm. Or are there more Torque limiting things?

Best regards,

Benjamin

There is on the engine as well. The ECU will limit the waist gate range. To date I haven't seen a Cupra with JB4 hit 26psi.

moser7 11-15-2018 12:02 PM

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Here is my current map 6 for all day driving.
Whats your opinion? Is there room for more boost on 6 to 6.5 Krpm?
Car is stock, only a apr Turbo Inlet is used and a DSG Tune.

Benjamin

George @ BMS 11-15-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moser7 (Post )
Here is my current map 6 for all day driving.
Whats your opinion? Is there room for more boost on 6 to 6.5 Krpm?
Car is stock, only a apr Turbo Inlet is used and a DSG Tune.

Benjamin

This is good for 98Ron and cooler climate on a stock car.
I wouldn't add more boost higher up as the timing will be affected. Shoot over logs to my email if you want to have them checked.

moser7 11-15-2018 01:52 PM

Ok,Thank you for your reply. I,ll make a logfile next days.
Im Running the car usually on 100 ROZ the Year round. (Shell V-Power)

Benjamin

MaxM97 11-20-2018 09:28 AM

Quick question, yesterday I set Future Use D to 90 on my JB4 to autoclear CEL due to ******** (P0420) however on my commute this morning the code and CEL came back. Does the code have to register multiple times for JB4 to autoclear?

George @ BMS 11-20-2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxM97 (Post )
Quick question, yesterday I set Future Use D to 90 on my JB4 to autoclear CEL due to ******** (P0420) however on my commute this morning the code and CEL came back. Does the code have to register multiple times for JB4 to autoclear?

If you in the US the autoclear is disabled as we cannot add emission defeat functions for legal purposes.


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