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MFactory 11-23-2016 01:47 AM

YCW Engineering Dry-Carbon Driveshaft - Pre-Order Special
 
Hey guys,

after nearly 20 months of long awaited anticipation, we have finally put the money where out mouth is and have something to show for it:

the NEW YCW Carbon Driveshaft:

Test Fitment on an E92 M3:
http://www.ycwengineering.com/images/dsm3.jpeg

Comparison to oem:
http://www.ycwengineering.com/images/dsm3a.jpeg

for those who have been following our driveshaft saga since the beginning, I'm sure you are all well aware by now of the issues we've had with previous partners, and thus our decision to move on and develop a new, better product from scratch.

in collaboration with a few key partners, we have finally finished developing a new carbon driveshaft that will hopefully help minimise the #1 issue that has been plaguing carbon driveshaft manufacturing since the beginning, be it aftermarket or oem: bonding

what exactly is this issue I hear you ask? Put simply, till this point in development, all manufacturers (including ourselves) have had the issue of the carbon tube breaking/spinning free from the flange/yolk/cv, causing immediate loss of drivetrain power. This is not a failure in the driveshaft parts themselves, but rather, the bonding/glue that holds everything together.

contrary to what some may believe to be a marketing exercise/scare tactic on my part, the reality is that this can and does happen (otherwise Nissan, MB AMG, BMW M etc wouldn't have had to recall their cars due to this issue, the most recent being the M4). A simple google search can confirm this to be true

there have been several "solutions" over the years by the manufacturers including:

- extended surface areas
- flat surface areas
- ridged surface areas
- rivets

all have failed to solve this issue.

So what is the solution proposed by YCW that has eluded the other manufacturers, and has taken us literally over 12 months of development time to come up with?

http://www.ycwengineering.com/images/ds.jpeg

The image above shows our solution; not only do we retain our old bonding process (extended surface area with high temperature glue), we have also incorporated our new locking mechanism which physically locks the carbon tube into the connecting joint, thus reducing rotational forces (which previously fell solely on the glue), and helps minimise the chance of the tube from spinning free of the joint.

This new technology, coupled with our industry-leading flanges/yolks/cv's, allows me to proudly claim our product as one of the most advanced and durable carbon driveshafts on the market today, alongside our ongoing oem developments with Toyota Motorsports (TRD) and Ford Performance.

Ok, enough with the sales pitch and down to the nitty-gritty; what fitments are/will be available and how much is this going to cost you?

Initial Phase
- E90/92 M3 MT 2006-2013. We have 1 sample available to ship out to a customer in the USA for road testing, of whom will be responsible for providing everyone with an update on the m3post.com forums (I will reply to all the PM's I've received after this post)

Next Phase. Testing will be rolled out in the following order:
- E46 M3 MT/SMG
- E90/92 M3 DCT 2008-2013
- 335i MT 2006-2010
- 135i MT 2006-2010
- 135i MT 2009-2013
- 335i AT 2006-2007
- 335i AT 2007-2012
- 135i AT 2006-2010
- 1M MT 2010-2012
- E60 535i AT 2006-2009

Final Phase. We have still to source the oem driveshafts for measurements:
- 335i MT 2010-2012
- 135i DCT 2009-2013

Production will start on the corresponding fitment after successfully road tested. Only then will we begin accepting payments (no sooner). Pre-orders have no upper limit and will end once production is complete and orders ready to ship

MSRP
All fitments will be $1499.95 + shipping

Tester Pricing
All testers will be offered the special "tester price" of $1100 inc shipping. All testers must be located within the contiguous US

Pre-Order Pricing
All fitments will have a pre-order price of $1300 inc shipping (additional shipping charges may apply if outside the US, or you cannot wait the 2-3 week shipping time and require us to ship via Air)

How to Pre-Order
Please PM me and I will add you to the Pre-Order list. Again, we will only start accepting payments after road testing for that fitment is complete.

Pre-Order Lists. This will be constantly updated
E90/92 M3 MT
- serranot
- thongvua
- BlauM3
- Richbot
- donut_boi
- HolyChitMeng
- deansbimmer
- blowbackpolicy
- 6ixSpd
- Malek@MRF
- E90who
- Joe Dirt

E90/92 M3 DCT 2008-2013
- slicer
- Milas
- Chuck's M3
- Todd0131
- Not Sure
- Lienrocs
- rantarM3
- capo1
- Grayblack
- AV9
- Surquhar
- amrazM

E46 M3
- youinreverse

1M
- martymil

335i MT 2006-2010
- bme30
- silverbimmer335

135i MT 2006-2010
- Nosrok
- raffists

135i DCT 2009-2013 DCT
- VegasJD
- jturboawd

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask :)

Lowon 11-23-2016 10:34 AM

Will you guys make any for the F series BMWs?

MFactory 11-24-2016 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowon (Post )
Will you guys make any for the F series BMWs?

If we can get hold of an oem driveshaft sample, it's certainly possible :)

Patrick4588 11-24-2016 09:37 PM

Whats the weight difference?

E90gone 11-24-2016 10:58 PM

Is the discount per model & time or total?

Example 40 n54 e90's at or 40 total buyers?

MFactory 11-25-2016 01:44 AM

Ours weigh around 5kg, which is around 6kg lighter than stock.

Discount is the total, not per model :)

FRNTHVY 11-27-2016 10:31 AM

You can pop me on the list for a 1M. Thanks.

mistawall 11-29-2016 02:34 PM

Would it be possible to make a driveshaft that would mate the m3 lsd to the n54 transmission? currently im going to have to weld a custom one together using the 135 shaft and the rear half of the m3 shaft

MFactory 11-30-2016 10:37 AM

it is possible, but we would need a sample to take measurements from

RickiBobbii 11-30-2016 10:39 PM

No N54 335 E92 Xdrive???

MFactory 12-01-2016 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickiBobbii (Post )
No N54 335 E92 Xdrive???

We would need an oem sample to take measurements from

spang135 12-05-2016 06:30 PM

you can add me to the list N54 E82 135i MT 2006-2010

MFactory 12-06-2016 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spang135 (Post )
you can add me to the list N54 E82 135i MT 2006-2010

Added :)

sch4400 12-07-2016 08:03 AM

Would it be possible to make a driveshaft that would mate the e60 m5 lsd to the n54 transmission for e60 535i?

MFactory 12-07-2016 09:03 AM

Possible, yes. We would need a working sample though to take measurements from.

TEC 12-07-2016 09:41 AM

Is this a pure carbon fiber shaft or a carbon over aluminum overlay?

MFactory 12-07-2016 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEC (Post )
Is this a pure carbon fiber shaft or a carbon over aluminum overlay?

100% (not 40% carbon, 60% glue like everyone else) pure unadulterated carbon fibre from Toray Industries in Japan (the highest quality carbon fibre in the world) :)

the_panda_driver 12-07-2016 11:11 AM

Put me on the Pre oder list for the E90 N54 MT.

MFactory 12-08-2016 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_panda_driver (Post )
Put me on the Pre oder list for the E90 N54 MT.

Added :)

E90gone 12-08-2016 02:05 PM

In for 2008 E90 a/t. Love your LSD, need your axles as well. When will the axles be available?

Nosrok 12-08-2016 05:13 PM

In for an 08 N54 E82 135i MT

MFactory 12-09-2016 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90gone (Post )
In for 2008 E90 a/t. Love your LSD, need your axles as well. When will the axles be available?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosrok (Post )
In for an 08 N54 E82 135i MT

Added :)

working_title 12-14-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFactory (Post )
100% (not 40% carbon, 60% glue like everyone else) pure unadulterated carbon fibre from Toray Industries in Japan (the highest quality carbon fibre in the world) :)

First, these looks awesome, and a huge weight savings!

As for the comment about "100% pure unadulterated carbon fibre": It appears you're using prepreg tow, which has resin (glue) already applied to the fiber, (rather than running the fiber through a bath as it is wound). This is a method of filament winding which can result in a higher fiber content with less voids (and is a lot less messy), but is not entirely without a matrix.

I understand if you can't answer, but what prepreg are you using?

MFactory 12-14-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by working_title (Post )
First, these looks awesome, and a huge weight savings!

As for the comment about "100% pure unadulterated carbon fibre": It appears you're using prepreg tow, which has resin (glue) already applied to the fiber, (rather than running the fiber through a bath as it is wound). This is a method of filament winding which can result in a higher fiber content with less voids (and is a lot less messy), but is not entirely without a matrix.

I understand if you can't answer, but what prepreg are you using?

Yes, this is pre-preg (also known as Dry Carbon), which is the highest quality type of carbon base material you can use. It is manufactured by Toray Industries in Japan. You cannot use a "true" 100% carbon fibre, as it still requires a bonding matrix, as you mentioned. However, unlike with a Wet Carbon process, we do not introduce extra glue into the process.

MFactory 01-02-2017 12:28 PM

All PM's replied :)


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