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TTM5 07-13-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Engine is like new GTI and turbo remained the same as 248/252hp version. On 91 around 310hp and on 93 around 315hp or so on the 252hp version so the ouput should be more on yours.

U mentioned it uses the same turbo and the 12v does not add hp just spool, so wouldnt the power be the same as the 2020?

George @ BMS 07-13-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
U mentioned it uses the same turbo and the 12v does not add hp just spool, so wouldnt the power be the same as the 2020?

In theory yes, in practice no. We will know more once its run.

TTM5 07-15-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
In theory yes, in practice no. We will know more once its run.

Does the 2021 q5 w/tune run 30psi psi of boost like the gti?

TTM5 07-18-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
AFter or on this weekend.

Where is the dyno sheet george?

George @ BMS 07-18-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
Where is the dyno sheet george?

Will post more information early in the week. Power at the wheels. Boost targets are similar to 248/252hp version.

https://i.postimg.cc/28pNS9My/a4-dyno.png

TTM5 07-18-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Will post more information early in the week. Power at the wheels. Boost targets are similar to 248/252hp version.

https://i.postimg.cc/28pNS9My/a4-dyno.png

A stock a4 makes 261whp?

George @ BMS 07-18-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
A stock a4 makes 261whp?

Yes, was coldest run. Seems its under rated.

TTM5 07-18-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Yes, was coldest run. Seems its under rated.

How much whp does a 2020 make?

George @ BMS 07-19-2021 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
How much whp does a 2020 make?

I have seen 250 to 260whp. We havent had one on our dyno.

TTM5 07-19-2021 10:42 AM

George, jb hardly seems worth it for a 20hp gain on map2....

George @ BMS 07-19-2021 11:48 AM

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George, jb hardly seems worth it for a 20hp gain on map2....

Mapping is different on this, map 3 will be used for 93/94.

TTM5 07-19-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Mapping is different on this, map 3 will be used for 93/94.

Ok but even map3 30hp gain is not much, was expecting at least 50hp on 94 ....

TTM5 07-21-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
330hp or so. Looking more into things it looks like the 262hp motor is closer to a Gen4 motor than a Gen3.

Looks like nowhere close to 330hp on 93/94, right?

George @ BMS 07-23-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
Looks like nowhere close to 330hp on 93/94, right?

Thats more or less where it is if you factor correction from wheels to engine. If you factor in 15% losses it will be around 345hp or so keeping in mind the car is underated stock.

TTM5 07-27-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
Thats more or less where it is if you factor correction from wheels to engine. If you factor in 15% losses it will be around 345hp or so keeping in mind the car is underated stock.

What bhp does a 2020 q5 make vs 2021 @345hp on 93/94?

TTM5 07-30-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
What bhp does a 2020 q5 make vs 2021 @345hp on 93/94?

George, in other words, does the 2021 make more power than the 2020 on jb4?

George @ BMS 07-30-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
George, in other words, does the 2021 make more power than the 2020 on jb4?

Personally I dont think they are any different.

Mooglemd 10-03-2021 02:31 PM

I have the JB4 for my 2020 macan, I assume I need a new one if I get a 2022 Q5 right? This would be group 16? I have the group 6 one. Also You said the maps are different for this, I cannot find info on the new maps (what octane etc) for the new jb4, or is it the same as in the gen 3 thread?

George @ BMS 10-03-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooglemd (Post )
I have the JB4 for my 2020 macan, I assume I need a new one if I get a 2022 Q5 right? This would be group 16? I have the group 6 one. Also You said the maps are different for this, I cannot find info on the new maps (what octane etc) for the new jb4, or is it the same as in the gen 3 thread?


They have changed the sensor technology on the 2022 Q5 so a new unit will be needed and group 16 is indeed the correct one.

On this we using the following maps.

Map 0 stock
Map 1 and 2 can be used with 91
Map 3 for 93

From then and on you need to submit logs and we can work it up with a custom map.

Mooglemd 10-18-2021 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
They have changed the sensor technology on the 2022 Q5 so a new unit will be needed and group 16 is indeed the correct one.

On this we using the following maps.

Map 0 stock
Map 1 and 2 can be used with 91
Map 3 for 93

From then and on you need to submit logs and we can work it up with a custom map.

So they had no cars available for a while, so I ordered a Q5 55e. Any idea what box this engine would take?

George @ BMS 10-18-2021 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooglemd (Post )
So they had no cars available for a while, so I ordered a Q5 55e. Any idea what box this engine would take?

My understanding based on literature is the 2022 has a 261hp motor. They also added larger batteries to increase range.
Best bet though is once you get it we can look at the sensors and identify for sure which JB4 will be compatible.

TTM5 02-10-2022 12:31 PM

George, how much power can u make on 94 octane with a 2021 q5 now? I saw you made a lot more on the new GTI recently, which is the same engine more or less…

George @ BMS 02-10-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
George, how much power can u make on 94 octane with a 2021 q5 now? I saw you made a lot more on the new GTI recently, which is the same engine more or less…

We have not had a car on the dyno yet. The GTI uses a Garett turbo vs IS20 on Q5. I have done quite a few cars with custom maps and it should make around 10-15hp more than the dyno on our site. Waiting for summer temps to come around in order to get more data from users and we will amend the maps with a firmware update.

TTM5 02-10-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by George @ BMS (Post )
We have not had a car on the dyno yet. The GTI uses a Garett turbo vs IS20 on Q5. I have done quite a few cars with custom maps and it should make around 10-15hp more than the dyno on our site. Waiting for summer temps to come around in order to get more data from users and we will amend the maps with a firmware update.

On 93-94, how much whp will the gti make vs q5, no other mods only jb4....

George @ BMS 02-10-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TTM5 (Post )
On 93-94, how much whp will the gti make vs q5, no other mods only jb4....

The strongest GTI we have dynod so far is 321whp. This had a intake though.

https://i.postimg.cc/W3FvLb91/Colema...-Baselines.jpg


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