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jyamona 08-21-2015 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 328ijunkie (Post )
I can test today if you lmk where it is in I8A0S...

PM me your email, I have I8AOS ready.

Spxxx 08-21-2015 08:06 AM

Will this also block the kick down behavior while in gear in Auto mode?

jyamona 08-21-2015 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Spxxx (Post )
Will this also block the kick down behavior while in gear in Auto mode?

No idea. I have it sent to two I8AOS users to test and report back.

328ijunkie 08-21-2015 10:14 AM

Kickdown kill works (on 6AT)! Simply Set voltage trigger to 5V and it never overrides 'your wishes'. Drive and Sport work as normal and downshift on you as they normally would if youre in a high gear and roll into throttle. Manual mode holds gear you choose forever now! Thanks Jyamona...

Also as far as DCT goes, i dont see this affecting launch control in any form or fashion. Its not changing anything with the TPS or throttle mapping in any form or fashion. WOT is still WOT and thats all the launch control looks to see. WOT just now doesnt also trigger a kickdown.

Levan-i 08-21-2015 10:14 AM

jake

please! please!

send me definitions with gear ratio,
i have swapped to MT and left AT diff

levanime at gmail

jyamona 08-21-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 328ijunkie (Post )
Kickdown kill works (on 6AT)! Simply Set voltage trigger to 5V and it never overrides 'your wishes'. Drive and Sport work as normal and downshift on you as they normally would if youre in a high gear and roll into throttle. Manual mode holds gear you choose forever now! Thanks Jyamona...

Also as far as DCT goes, i dont see this affecting launch control in any form or fashion. Its not changing anything with the TPS or throttle mapping in any form or fashion. WOT is still WOT and thats all the launch control looks to see. WOT just now doesnt also trigger a kickdown.

Boom! This will be released shortly to all =)

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Originally Posted by Levan-i (Post )
jake

please! please!

send me definitions with gear ratio,
i have swapped to MT and left AT diff

levanime at gmail

I am finishing a large XDF update today. Everything will be released soon.

Levan-i 08-21-2015 10:27 AM

perfect :)

please, include errors ive posted

jyamona 08-21-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Levan-i (Post )
perfect :)

please, include errors ive posted

I may have missed them. Can you list them all here?

Levan-i 08-21-2015 11:05 AM

sure, i needed them after disabling rear O2 s

2C7E at 5A184 (AfterCat 02 sensor trim control, Bank 1)
2C7F at 5A198 (AfterCat 02 sensor trim control, Bank 2)
2C6A at 58604 (lambda probe behind catalytic converter, muddled) (btw, not correctly described here http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/N54_codes.pdf)
2C9E at 59158 (Control heater sensor after *** bank1)
2C9F at 5916C (Control heater sensor after *** bank2)

jyamona 08-21-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Levan-i (Post )
sure

2C7E at 5A184 (AfterCat 02 sensor trim control, Bank 1)
2C7F at 5A198 (AfterCat 02 sensor trim control, Bank 2)
2C6A at 58604 (lambda probe behind catalytic converter, muddled) (btw, not correctly described here http://www.n54tech.com/flash_files/N54_codes.pdf)
2C9E at 59158 (Control heater sensor after *** bank1)
2C9F at 5916C (Control heater sensor after *** bank2)

Ok. I will see what I can do. If I do not have time to add them this update, they will be included in the next.

I do recommend keeping your rear O2 sensors for now though. I would not remove them until that logic path can be turned off completely.

musc 08-21-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 328ijunkie (Post )
Also as far as DCT goes, i dont see this affecting launch control in any form or fashion. Its not changing anything with the TPS or throttle mapping in any form or fashion. WOT is still WOT and thats all the launch control looks to see. WOT just now doesnt also trigger a kickdown.

Incorrect. Launch control for DCT requires that the kickdown button is engaged so disabling it would disable your ability to go into LC mode. I have a kick down blocker in now and I can achieve 99.8% pedal but still not engage launch control. Remove the blocker and press the pedal to where you engage the button and LC mode will start.

Jake, if you want a tester for a 335is INA0S_IS DCT let me know.

328ijunkie 08-21-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by musc (Post )
Incorrect. Launch control for DCT requires that the kickdown button is engaged so disabling it would disable your ability to go into LC mode. I have a kick down blocker in now and I can achieve 99.8% pedal but still not engage launch control. Remove the blocker and press the pedal to where you engage the button and LC mode will start.

Jake, if you want a tester for a 335is INA0S_IS DCT let me know.

I wonder if its button based or pedal voltage based. Im pretty sure the button is just there as a dummy but it may be functional. Either way the button is still pressed now it just doesnt fire a 'kickdown'

musc 08-21-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 328ijunkie (Post )
I wonder if its button based or pedal voltage based. Im pretty sure the button is just there as a dummy but it may be functional. Either way the button is still pressed now it just doesnt fire a 'kickdown'

Jake may know for sure but I know with the DCT the button has to be physically depressed to get LC mode to activate. I can achieve 100% pedal (reads as like 99.8% on MHD but 100% on JB4) and still not be pressing the kick down button. I drive around with a kick down blocker all the time since LC is just something that really only needs to be available at a track. I will test the flash parameter and see once it is available.

Terry @ BMS 08-21-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by musc (Post )
Jake may know for sure but I know with the DCT the button has to be physically depressed. I can achieve 100% pedal (reads as like 99.8% on MHD but 100% on JB4) and still not be pressing the kick down button. I drive around with a kick down blocker all the time since LC is just something that really only needs to be available at a track. I will test the flash parameter and see once it is available.

It would depend whether the launch mode is using kick down status or another status to enable. You won't know until someone finds the same table in a DCT file and tests it.

musc 08-21-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS (Post )
It would depend whether the launch mode is using kick down status or another status to enable. You won't know until someone finds the same table in a DCT file and tests it.

Should be easy to find now that the table has been defined in I8A0S. Few minutes with a hex editor and it could be up and running for INA0S :)

I am not sure if the TCU comes into play as well since we can hit the kick down switch with DSC off and still not enable LC but it will enable with DTC on. I suspect that with the voltage set to 5v you will not be able to engage LC mode but I will test to find out for sure.

Levan-i 08-23-2015 12:28 AM

No XDF Update = No Happiness

nyt 08-23-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jyamona (Post )
PM me your email.

pm'd but no reply

jyamona 08-24-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Levan-i (Post )
No XDF Update = No Happiness

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Originally Posted by nyt (Post )
pm'd but no reply

Sorry guys, I don't "forum" much on the weekends, too busy. NYT, I missed your PM as I didn't get an email notification for it. It's been tested though, so no worries.

IJEOS has been sent to Martial. He will run his script to define all new tables in the other roms and it will be published asap.

jyamona 08-25-2015 09:01 AM

1 Attachment(s)
XDF Progress Update!

The following updates have been published to the XDF GitHub

New Table Additions:
- Transmission/ Gear Ratio Calculation
- Transmission/ Kickdown Pedal Recognition Voltage
- Transmission/ Kickdown Pedal Recognition Hysteresis
- Spark Dwell/ Dwell Time
- INAOS: MAP Voltage (V) axis

Existing Table Fixes
- renamed table to: Cold Start Duration
- Torque Request/ Requested Torque (Driver): scaling fixed to be a %, instead of a lb-ft value

Still in Active Testing / Development
- Load by Gear
- Single Bank O2
- ADV Lambda Sensor Support

Also, some info to go with these new tables! For the gear ratio calc table, if you are 6MT and have switched to the 3.46 final drive, you will want to change these values. I have done some testing on this, to get my car to report the correct gear. I have ended up w/ the following (attached)


For the Kickdown tables, you can simply set the Recognition Voltage table to 4.998V. You can leave the hysteresis alone, it was just added for completeness.

For Spark Dwell, this has not been tested yet, but I added in hopes those with the correct equipment to test before / after changes will take advantage of it. Do not mess with this table if you do not know what you are doing, and cannot scope the coils to monitor changes!

nyt 08-25-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jyamona (Post )
XDF Progress Update!

For Spark Dwell, this has not been tested yet, but I added in hopes those with the correct equipment to test before / after changes will take advantage of it. Do not mess with this table if you do not know what you are doing, and cannot scope the coils to monitor changes!

I have a scope. What do you want to see?

Also, why not put that under ignition?

jyamona 08-25-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nyt (Post )
I have a scope. What do you want to see?

Also, why not put that under ignition?

I would like to see the ms value of dwell with the stock table, vs. a small change to the 14V and 16V columns to make sure this is the base table for a spark dwell increase. Stock is around 2.3ms when warm, revving.

Cold, startup, idle, and maybe light cruise use a multi-spark mode so dwell is different. No reason to change that, we are mostly interested in increasing dwell time at higher loads / rpm / boost to see if it can be improved.

It wasn't placed under Ignition yet as it is WIP. There are many more tables related to spark / dwell in the DME too, so as needed they will be added to their own folder for the time being. It also makes it easier to push certain items from my private GitHub to the public one, if they are by folder.

nyt 08-25-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jyamona (Post )
I would like to see the ms value of dwell with the stock table, vs. a small change to the 14V and 16V columns to make sure this is the base table for a spark dwell increase. Stock is around 2.3ms when warm, revving.

Cold, startup, idle, and maybe light cruise use a multi-spark mode so dwell is different. No reason to change that, we are mostly interested in increasing dwell time at higher loads / rpm / boost to see if it can be improved.

It wasn't placed under Ignition yet as it is WIP. There are many more tables related to spark / dwell in the DME too, so as needed they will be added to their own folder for the time being. It also makes it easier to push certain items from my private GitHub to the public one, if they are by folder.

I'll try to measure the current and voltage with my scope at some point soon. It's raining right now and my garage is a mess. That said, if these values are even close to generating a full coil charge, I don't think there's much point modifying this table unless you're running different coils . It looks mapped out well.

Also, do you know if there's another table, like dwell time percent based on rpm and/or load?

jyamona 08-25-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nyt (Post )
I'll try to measure the current and voltage with my scope at some point soon. It's raining right now and my garage is a mess. That said, if these values are even close to generating a full coil charge, I don't think there's much point modifying this table unless you're running different coils . It looks mapped out well.

Also, do you know if there's another table, like dwell time percent based on rpm and/or load?

Well that's what I'm trying to see! Hopefully there is a bit of headroom with factory coils, as they did not need to support the type of boost we are seeing now. If not, it may allow the use of other coils. Win / win.

And no, this is the only 3D dwell table I have seen. Battery Voltage vs. RPM. Load shouldn't really matter, as a stronger charge (if needed for higher load), won't hurt anything at lower load.

nyt 08-25-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jyamona (Post )
Well that's what I'm trying to see! Hopefully there is a bit of headroom with factory coils, as they did not need to support the type of boost we are seeing now. If not, it may allow the use of other coils. Win / win.

And no, this is the only 3D dwell table I have seen. Battery Voltage vs. RPM. Load shouldn't really matter, as a stronger charge (if needed for higher load), won't hurt anything at lower load.

Was just curious as I've seen other platforms map out the max dwell time with rpm vs voltage then have another table for what percentage of that to use.

I'll try and scope this out soon. I have a current probe so hopefully we can get a good idea of what's going on. It might have to wait until the weekend depending on my work load.

Levan-i 08-25-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jyamona (Post )
Also, some info to go with these new tables! For the gear ratio calc table, if you are 6MT and have switched to the 3.46 final drive, you will want to change these values. I have done some testing on this, to get my car to report the correct gear. I have ended up w/ the following (attached)

Jake,

so, you are MT with 3.46 gear ratio and that numbers are correct for your case, right?

also,
Title text for error 2C77 and 2C7C are same
so are title texts for 2C79 and 2C7B


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