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*** We're going to use this thread as the general Kia Stinger informational thread including posting the install guide, mapping guide, software, firmware updates as we release them, logs, and general discussion. ***

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JB4 Interface: Latest JB4 Windows Interface Download.

If you need directions on how to connect a laptop to your JB4 to update firmware, datalog, or change maps via the laptop interface Click here.

An IOS compatible JB4 interface is posted here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21742

Map Info (selected via menu 0 in dash or using JB4 Mobile/laptop interface. Map1 is the default map)

Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: 3psi over stock
Map 2: 4psi over stock.
Map 3: User adjustable fixed boost profile using "boost safety" as additive level
Map 4: Stock performance with logging active
Map 5: Under development
Map 6: Under development
Map 7: Under development


Hey guys,

A local customer brought by his Kia Stinger today so we could keep under the hood and get started on a JB4 for it. Turns out it uses similar electronics to other models we've tuned in the past so it was pretty easy to get an ALPHA system up and running for him. No CANbus yet but boost control is solid. Stock boost on the 3.3L twin turbo is around 12psi, and we cranked it up to 16-17psi, since he's already running a stand alone WMI kit on the car.

Consider Stinger JB4 development under way.
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Default 03-08-2018, 12:11 PM

This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.


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What power did it make?
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This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.
Come on, they should know better than that. Magnuson-Moss says they aren't voiding anything.


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Definitely interested in hearing what's going on with this tune. I've had a JB+ and JB4 for my 335i and loved them. What might it be called?


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This is good news, but the one thing about Kia is that they will happily void your engine warranty if they ever see any non-factory engine mods. On the bright side, however, a piggyback unit can always be removed prior to any service visits.
He happens to work for a Kia dealer and told me as long as you remove the parts before going in generally it's not a problem. He said they are scanning the cars checking for flash tuning though now. Per usual if you can't afford to fix it, don't risk modifying it, but we expect our tuning to be very reliable. The motor appears overbuilt for the factory power levels.


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Definitely interested in hearing what's going on with this tune. I've had a JB+ and JB4 for my 335i and loved them. What might it be called?
It will be a JB4


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So far, so good on testing. We need some more test cars. Email if you have a Stinger and are looking for a great deal on a tune.


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So far, so good on testing. We need some more test cars. Email if you have a Stinger and are looking for a great deal on a tune.
Terry, I have a few people interested. How do I email you?


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Around 10 BETA systems are on the way out. I'll post an install guide and more detailed directions in the first post shortly. For now direct any inquires, help requests, logs, etc, to this thread so we have them all in one place.


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Are there any plans for jb4 for the 2.0T? Happy to be a tester if needed
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Are there any plans for jb4 for the 2.0T? Happy to be a tester if needed
Absolutely... What year/model do you have?


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I have a 2018 Kia Stinger 2.0T.

It seems a lot of the tuning options are for the 3.3TT, but I’m sure there still a lot of interest with the 2.0T platform.
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Thanks for the opportunity Terry, Robert (2018 GT)
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I have a 2018 Kia Stinger 2.0T.

It seems a lot of the tuning options are for the 3.3TT, but Iím sure there still a lot of interest with the 2.0T platform.
I want to get the BETA system in the hands of a couple 2.0T cars to collect some data. I expect we'll be able to make the tuning fully compatible.


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Terry - do you need any Beta Testers for the Canadian market? I have the 3.3TT.

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We've got an initial 10 3.3L cars lined up already and will update the thread with progress as we go.


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I want to get the BETA system in the hands of a couple 2.0T cars to collect some data. I expect we'll be able to make the tuning fully compatible.
That would be great! Do they have to be local to Simi Valley or would any location work? How many testers were you thinking? I'd add my name to the list and happy to put the word out to others.

Can you PM me on the details?
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First step would be to track down someone willing to drive by our office here. Put the word out and lets see if we can track a car down.


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First step would be to track down someone willing to drive by our office here. Put the word out and lets see if we can track a car down.
Awesome! I'll email you once I get a taker!
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I am super stoked to be apart of this... Thanks again Terry!
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Talking So far so good - 03-23-2018, 05:30 AM

Installed my tester last night and only got to drive it for about 10 minutes because it was so late, but I can say first impressions are VERY positive. Car feels more powerful any gear any revs. Used launch control and it noticeably removed the slight delay it had before. I can also feel my car squatting more than it did before.
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Was able to install the JB4 this evening and make a couple pulls with data. It looks like the boost is low, but I'm not sure Im reading the data right.
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Well I've got some not so encouraging news. I took the car out for a few pulls, and on pull three we most definitely has issues.

I ran the car in mode 0 (disabled) and twice in mode two (+4psi). The first time things went without a hitch. Drove a couple of miles and went to pull again, and about half way through a WOT pull I got a solid check engine light that went off after finishing the pull (got up to 80Mph and let off). Slowed down to make the turn onto another road, and when I gave the car a little throttle to start speeding up I started getting misfires and the check engine light was back on. Drove the remaining mile to my house in that condition, and when I placed it in park, she was idling very rough, definite misfire.

Fired up the laptop and set the tune back down to mode 0 (disabled) and gave the car a few minutes, then fired it back up. Car ran as normal. Gave it a few hard accelerations in park up to 5krpm, and everything still ran fine as can be, with no check engine light.

I've got the entire sessions (all three pulls) recorded on my snapon diagnostics setup (should be able to be watch on the free ShopStream Connect software, and pictures of the maximum pre-chip MAP sensor voltage for each of the pulls as well.

I've enclosed a zip that has the session file, the software to view it, and a picture of the max map sensor voltage reading named to match the mark where the max boost occurred on the SnapOn Playback.

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