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Default BMS Ford F150 Raptor Stage1 Development - 01-29-2018, 02:32 PM

Hey guys,

Friend of the shop Greg came by today so we could take a peek at his new 2018 Ford F150 Raptor 3.5L twin turbo. Does around 450hp from the factory.

To our surprise, it uses a similar engine management to the BMW turbo models, and I was able to work up Stage1 tuning relatively quickly. Stock boost is around 15psi peak, and for now we've raised that to 18psi peak, to evaluate. The extra power really wakes this heavy truck up!

Page below and looking for BETA testers in short order.

http://burgertuning.com/ford_f150_ra...nce_tuner.html
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Default 01-29-2018, 07:51 PM

Hey Terry, any plans for the normal 3.5 ecoboost?


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Default 01-29-2018, 08:39 PM

Good question... I wonder if it uses the same electronics?


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Default 01-30-2018, 09:07 AM

This is so awesome Terry! Iíll be ordering a Raptor later this year and you were going to be my first call. Boltons are available, but it seems the tuning market for this engine is almost untouched. Canít wait to see what you can do!
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Donít they run 16-18 stock? If you need a test truck, let me know.
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Default 01-30-2018, 10:37 AM

We measured 15psi on Greg's but I'm sure boost is load based, so will go up or down depending on the weather.


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Hey Terry, if you also get into the normal F-150 3.5L ecoboost I think you will probably gain a lot more business. They use the same engine in quite a few different platforms. But I would definitely be on board for JB for my truck. And I would be down to be a tester. I also work at a shop with a DynoJet linx system so if you need #'s I can crank them out for you. My vehicle is a:

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Hey Terry, if you also get into the normal F-150 3.5L ecoboost I think you will probably gain a lot more business. They use the same engine in quite a few different platforms. But I would definitely be on board for JB for my truck. And I would be down to be a tester. I also work at a shop with a DynoJet linx system so if you need #'s I can crank them out for you. My vehicle is a:

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Yes I'm 99% sure it will be compatible, so we'll have the same tuner for both 3.5L models. With the only change being on the software side.

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Terry, if you need more testers for normal 3.5 ecoboost let me know I would be very interested in helping out, I have a 2015 F150 3.5 ecoboost as well.


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Default 01-31-2018, 10:14 PM

We've got a handful of systems either in use or on their way. Assuming all goes to plan we'll have the Stage1 BETA up on our site soon to expand the testing pool. The F150 platform at large has a lot more potential and interest than I expected.


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Yes I'm 99% sure it will be compatible, so we'll have the same tuner for both 3.5L models. With the only change being on the software side.

Email me if you want to help test it out.
you have been e-mailed sir. Thanks
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A local customer got the 2.7L model EcoBoost also, can't wait to check that out.


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A local customer got the 2.7L model EcoBoost also, can't wait to check that out.
I've heard they are a dark horse. Also think they are running a CGI cylinder block, so a little different from the rest of the EB line-up.


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Very nice! I’ve already flashed mine, but a large market for sure. Looking forward to watching the development.


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Default 02-02-2018, 11:54 AM

I also meant to say, 15 psi peak sounds like he may be on the low octane maps. Is he running 91? It may be that the Cali 91 isn't sufficient for the maximum performance maps the factory ECU has. Mine on 93 is 14-15 psi rising to 17, which given normal temps is average with sufficient octane. A max of 15 psi suggests it's running on lower performance maps. I'd have him blend in 5 gallons or so of E85 and see what happens. +3 psi should get you right up to 20 psi high up in the rev range. These ECUs also have dynamic advance as well as retard ignition correction...on E30 and in the lower gears, I've seen it add 2-3 deg of timing.


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Yes was running 91 octane. We should start getting a wider range of data in soon on them. I've heard it has built in flex fuel also which would be great.


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Hmm, I haven't seen the ethanol sensor anywhere. I wish the flash folks would figure out how to balance fuel delivery across the DI and PI during WOT so that higher concentrations of E could be used without crashing the high pressure pump. I've limped mine a few times at low rpm partial throttle, where it'll zip up to 20 psi at around 2k rpm and bottom the rail pressure out to 250 psi, haha. If I don't add any E85 it really doesn't drop too badly, but even E30 I have to semi-keep an eye on part throttle low rpm boost. I've told them they need to limit boost pressure and ride the edge of pump performance up to 2500 rpm or so, but they don't seem interested in doing that. Its good up to about 14 psi at super low engine rpm before any noticeable pressure deviation begins. This is about double the boost pressure the factory runs in this range, as opposed to nearly 3x with the MPT tune.


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You NEED to support the 17' Explorer 3.5L twin turbo. Like, you NEED to!


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I am up for testing on the 3.5L Ecoboost for the Taurus SHO and Ford Flex. I have both a 2011 SHO and a 2014 Flex - they both have the 3.5L ecoboost.


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You NEED to support the 17' Explorer 3.5L twin turbo. Like, you NEED to!
I'm 99% sure it's fully compatible. If you have one contact me.


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I'm 99% sure it's fully compatible. If you have one contact me.
I do. And I did. Email is fmonteiro444@gmail


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I do. And I did. Email is fmonteiro444@gmail
Since you have a flash tune already and modified tmap sensor not really the demographic we're looking for to test Stage1. But maybe down the road when we have a JB4.


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Terry, I enjoyed your products on my N54 135i, and 2015 GTI, I hope you end up supporting the 2.7EB at some point. That is my current ride and would be thrilled to have a JB set up for it!


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