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Talking FBO + E50 Dyno - 10-05-2013, 01:42 PM

The day finally came; I got dyno-tuned by Jake of PTF today.

These are the numbers with my turbos (probably) on the way out; I wasn't hitting boost until low-mid 3K. They'll be getting replaced within a month'ish, so we'll re-tune and hit the dyno afterwards.

The weather didn't help since it was low-mid 90s out of nowhere, and probably hotter in the shop.

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Default 10-05-2013, 01:45 PM

Is it common for turbos to just fail like that?


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Default 10-05-2013, 03:18 PM

Shouldn't it be more around 450/500?
Being FBO and running a PTF E50 tune, I would think it would


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Is it common for turbos to just fail like that?
I don't think it's common, especially at around 53K miles. I purchased this car at around 34K(?) miles, so the previous owner had a lot of time if he ever decided to push it. I'm actually happy; I found a little (major) local hookup for turbos.

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Shouldn't it be more around 450/500?
Being FBO and running a PTF E50 tune, I would think it would
Is there a reason you think this (e.g. dynos from people running E50 on stock turbos and FBO), or just wishful thinking?

(Why would you think it'd be more with turbos going out?)
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Default 10-05-2013, 07:20 PM

Didn't realize your turbos are going out


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Didn't realize your turbos are going out
Disregarding that fact, was your reasoning behind your 450/500 numbers because of dynos you've seen?
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Disregarding that fact, was your reasoning behind your 450/500 numbers because of dynos you've seen?
Correct. What was your peak psi


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Thanks! After the turbos get replaced I'll be strapping on a meth kit. Hopefully you can welcome me to the 500hp club.
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Correct. What was your peak psi
Can you post the links to those dynos (Or the members)? I'll be posting logs when I get them. Jake had a long day and he's in the process of moving, so not in a hurry for them.
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Default 10-08-2013, 02:47 PM

Why is the standard in this community STD dyno correction instead of the SAE dyno correction seemingly used in every other group? STD juices up the numbers over SAE by about 10-15 hp, doesn't it? Of course, dyno #s from different dynos/dates/cars shouldn't be compared anyway...but if you make those comparisons, it takes some translation from the numbers here to the numbers reported by the V8 guys.
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Why is the standard in this community STD dyno correction instead of the SAE dyno correction seemingly used in every other group? STD juices up the numbers over SAE by about 10-15 hp, doesn't it? Of course, dyno #s from different dynos/dates/cars shouldn't be compared anyway...but if you make those comparisons, it takes some translation from the numbers here to the numbers reported by the V8 guys.
I wasn't aware and/or didn't notice. I'll grab both when I re-tune and re-dyno.
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Default 10-08-2013, 04:55 PM

It's no big deal. I just always thought that STD correction was the choice for dyno sympathy where SAE numbers were disappointing. SAE is the norm in every other car community I've dropped in on.
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It's no big deal. I just always thought that STD correction was the choice for dyno sympathy where SAE numbers were disappointing. SAE is the norm in every other car community I've dropped in on.
Personally, 400+whp/400+wtq would never be disappointing on stock turbos without meth.
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Default 10-08-2013, 07:03 PM

Do you have a log of your run you can post?


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Do you have a log of your run you can post?
Here are some logs:

Datazap - RoyalFlush + FBO + E50

Datazap - RoyalFlush - FBO + E50 (1)

Did you ever find those dynos/logs of FBO + E50 6ATs without meth hitting 450WHP/500WTQ? (Other than a tuner's own car - I think Terry hit 456WHP)

You were kind of saying it like it's pretty common.

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Default 10-18-2013, 08:25 PM

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Here are some logs:

Datazap - RoyalFlush + FBO + E50

Datazap - RoyalFlush - FBO + E50 (1)

Did you ever find those dynos/logs of the 6ATs without meth hitting 450WHP/500WTQ? (Other than a tuner's own car - I think Terry hit 456WHP)

You were kind of saying it like it's pretty common.

I'm one that hit 450 hp and 481 tq on a Dynojet without Meth, thank to Terry

Since I'm close by, Terry did all the testing

Check sig and my dyno

http://youtu.be/51z_sELokzk


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Default 10-18-2013, 08:39 PM

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I'm one that hit 450 hp and 481 tq on a Dynojet without Meth, thank to Terry

Since I'm close by, Terry did all the testing

Check sig and my dyno

http://youtu.be/51z_sELokzk
Nice numbers! (Your percentage of E85 is higher than mine; I meant to put on E50. I'm OCD and was looking for the same car and mods.)

Did you stack tunes?
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Nice numbers! (Your percentage of E85 is higher than mine; I meant to put on E50)
Thanx

We were testing the AEM 320 ( not the E85 version ) at the time

I would say I was running anywhere between E60 - E70

Still running same setup

( Meth tank was added a month or two ago )


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Thanx

We were testing the AEM 320 ( not the E85 version ) at the time

I would say I was running anywhere between E60 - E70

Still running same setup

( Meth tank was added a month or two ago )
That's awesome. I was trying to gun for E60 the first time, but Jake said the car wasn't liking it, so we added some 93 Octane.

I might do the in-tank upgrade to try and supplement more E85, but I'm pretty content right now.
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That's awesome. I was trying to gun for E60 the first time, but Jake said the car wasn't liking it, so we added some 93 Octane.

I might do the in-tank upgrade to try and supplement more E85, but I'm pretty content right now.
Thanx again

No need to do the intank, unless you plan on running more than 50% of E85

I ran my stock for over 2 yrs, off and on with 40-50 of E85

And the stock is still good, just changed it just in case I wanted to run higher % of E85, which I can whenever I want


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