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750i N63 Twin Turbo V8 Dyno -
12-14-2012, 01:46 PM
Hey guys,
Thanks to a generous customer I was able to borrow a 2009 750i N63 to play around with a bit. This is the same motor used in the 550i, which (as I understand it) is a detuned version of the same motor used in the new M5.
They advertise it at around 445hp so I was curious to see what it would put down on a dynojet. Best run was 387whp and 448whp. Not too shabby.
While I had it here I did a little tuning via an N63 Stage1 tune I designed for it. It's a very mild and easy to install tune, going for the easy horsepower with it. If it catches on we'll explore higher stages. But just with around 2psi more than stock using the Stage1 tune we were able to get power up to 412whp / 482wtq.
This car is huge and on the road the extra power is noticeable. Hopefully we can get a new 550i in soon for some dyno testing.
For anyone interested the N63 Stage1 is $379.
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12-14-2012, 01:50 PM
Finally! I knew this motor could benefit from Terry's tuning....
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12-14-2012, 01:52 PM
Very nice. Looks pretty strong. Im sure if you post this up in the proper places the N63 guys will be all over this! Looks to be pretty on par with Dinan too, 500 and 580 on stage 2 tune with Dinan. 15% loss is about right at your numbers.
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12-14-2012, 02:02 PM
Ah...... more things to play with.
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12-14-2012, 02:59 PM
I was looking into this car once!! Thanks great!
That's some good power with a little bit of tuning! Nice Terry!
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12-14-2012, 03:29 PM
Very cool.
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12-14-2012, 03:38 PM
That year N63 was rated at 400HP (450TQ) from BMW. So the numbers are even more impressive!
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12-14-2012, 09:05 PM
damn barely fits on the rollers....
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12-15-2012, 09:16 AM
This is awesome! I think in the past the only tunes available for the 750's were Dinan which is so expensive... I'm sure you would get a bunch of interest if a tune was released
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12-15-2012, 11:01 AM
It's a great engine with a lot of potential. Instant torque everywhere. I only wish it was in a lighter weight platform like a 1 series or M3. This 750 is a tank.
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12-15-2012, 11:12 AM
Weee.
We got an M5 here in town dying for a tune and a bump in power.
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12-15-2012, 12:11 PM
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bigdaddycain
Finally! I knew this motor could benefit from Terry's tuning....
For the record, I was the first to suggest this...
Glad to see you tackle this market Terry.
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12-15-2012, 12:58 PM
Finally. I can finally get a 550i for a daily.
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12-15-2012, 02:53 PM
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For the record, I was the first to suggest this...
so, whaddya want, a cookie?
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12-15-2012, 03:07 PM
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so, whaddya want, a cookie?
Acknowledgement that it was a good idea. Cookies are cool too.
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12-15-2012, 03:38 PM
I think about a thousound other people had the same exact idea when BMW announced that they were using a twin turbo V8 instead of a NA V8.....
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12-15-2012, 04:22 PM
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I think about a thousound other people had the same exact idea when BMW announced that they were using a twin turbo V8 instead of a NA V8.....
I think you may not be aware of discussions between Terry and I regarding this platform and BMS that took place.
Regardless, very cool to see them in this market.
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12-15-2012, 10:49 PM
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That year N63 was rated at 400HP (450TQ) from BMW. So the numbers are even more impressive!
Yup, the new ones have been bumped up from 400hp/450tq to 445hp/480tq straight from the factory.
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12-15-2012, 10:52 PM
If anyone local has a new 750i or 550i and can drop it off for a day or two, I'll send it home with a tune and dyno.
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12-16-2012, 03:11 AM
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Terry @ BMS
If anyone local has a new 750i or 550i and can drop it off for a day or two, I'll send it home with a tune and dyno.
I know a guy who used to have a tuned 335i, now he has a 400hp 550i....Or do you mean you want to look at the 2013 445hp version?
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12-16-2012, 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by
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I know a guy who used to have a tuned 335i, now he has a 400hp 550i....Or do you mean you want to look at the 2013 445hp version?
Looking for someone with the 445hp version so I can dyno test it, measure the boost/advance/afr levels, etc, to ensure the tune works properly for it. Which I expect it will.
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12-16-2012, 10:06 AM
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12-16-2012, 08:51 PM
Hey Terry, remember me ? =], I got a 2012 650i new one with the same motor, when can I get this tune ?
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12-16-2012, 09:19 PM
We're looking for BETA testers now so just email me.
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12-16-2012, 09:31 PM
So is it just going to stay at Stage 1 or are you guys planning on adding more power and doing something more like a JB4 with steering wheel controls and whatnot? I might pick one of these up for my dad
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