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Default N63/S63 Twin Turbo V8 - 12-14-2012, 01:46 PM

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Hey guys,

This is the central post for all n63/n63tu/s63/s63tu tuning information. Note the n63/s63 Stage1 tuning is offered for all models including the 550i, 650i, 750i, X5, M5, M6, etc.

Download the install guide here.

Order the Stage1 tunes here: http://www.burgertuning.com/N63_Jb_B...nce_Tuner.html

Optional Stage1 software for use with the BMS USB cable: Stage1 interface download.

Note if your Stage1 unit says "N63-2" on it in marker then you have a different board that requires the JB4 interface. The settings are the same as below but the fields will be in a different place on the screen.
JB4 Interface: Latest JB4 Interface Download.

How to connect your windows laptop to the tuner: Click here.


n63 S2 development, dynos, and discussion thread. Note there is no Stage2 under development or planned for the n63tu or s63tu at this time.

Info on our M5 development car and s63tu testing.

M5 Track times @ Famoso Raceway

OEM, S1, and S2 BETA testing on a 2011 550i n63:


2014 550i n63tu Stage1 testing:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22846



Customer's s63tu Stage1 dyno w/ exhaust, K&N filters, 93 octane, and a can of octane booster:



Had a customer send in this video of his BMS N63 Stage1 550 vs. a Dinan tuned 550. Cars were surprisingly evenly matched. We've seen some other customer dyno sheets that indicate the Dinan N63 tune despite it's grandiose claims puts out around 425whp to the ground on a dynojet on pump gas. Same as our Stage1 except they charge ~$2,500 for the tune.



A few more customer provided videos of the Stage1 beating up on a Dinan tuned N63:





M5 taking drag record with an 11.0@128mh! Stage1 tune, exhaust, race gas, and upgraded tires.



How to setup an x63 meth kit: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=147
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Default 12-14-2012, 01:50 PM

Finally! I knew this motor could benefit from Terry's tuning....





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Default 12-14-2012, 01:52 PM

Very nice. Looks pretty strong. Im sure if you post this up in the proper places the N63 guys will be all over this! Looks to be pretty on par with Dinan too, 500 and 580 on stage 2 tune with Dinan. 15% loss is about right at your numbers.
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Cool 12-14-2012, 02:02 PM

Ah...... more things to play with.


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Default 12-14-2012, 02:59 PM

I was looking into this car once!! Thanks great!
That's some good power with a little bit of tuning! Nice Terry!



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Default 12-14-2012, 03:29 PM

Very cool.
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Default 12-14-2012, 03:38 PM

That year N63 was rated at 400HP (450TQ) from BMW. So the numbers are even more impressive!


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damn barely fits on the rollers....
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Default 12-15-2012, 09:16 AM

This is awesome! I think in the past the only tunes available for the 750's were Dinan which is so expensive... I'm sure you would get a bunch of interest if a tune was released


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Default 12-15-2012, 11:01 AM

It's a great engine with a lot of potential. Instant torque everywhere. I only wish it was in a lighter weight platform like a 1 series or M3. This 750 is a tank.


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Default 12-15-2012, 11:12 AM

Weee.
We got an M5 here in town dying for a tune and a bump in power.
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Default 12-15-2012, 12:11 PM

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Finally! I knew this motor could benefit from Terry's tuning....
For the record, I was the first to suggest this...

Glad to see you tackle this market Terry.


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Default 12-15-2012, 12:58 PM

Finally. I can finally get a 550i for a daily.


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Default 12-15-2012, 02:53 PM

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For the record, I was the first to suggest this...

so, whaddya want, a cookie?





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so, whaddya want, a cookie?
Acknowledgement that it was a good idea. Cookies are cool too.


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Default 12-15-2012, 03:38 PM

I think about a thousound other people had the same exact idea when BMW announced that they were using a twin turbo V8 instead of a NA V8.....





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Default 12-15-2012, 04:22 PM

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I think about a thousound other people had the same exact idea when BMW announced that they were using a twin turbo V8 instead of a NA V8.....
I think you may not be aware of discussions between Terry and I regarding this platform and BMS that took place.

Regardless, very cool to see them in this market.


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Default 12-15-2012, 10:49 PM

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That year N63 was rated at 400HP (450TQ) from BMW. So the numbers are even more impressive!
Yup, the new ones have been bumped up from 400hp/450tq to 445hp/480tq straight from the factory.


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Default 12-15-2012, 10:52 PM

If anyone local has a new 750i or 550i and can drop it off for a day or two, I'll send it home with a tune and dyno.


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Default 12-16-2012, 03:11 AM

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If anyone local has a new 750i or 550i and can drop it off for a day or two, I'll send it home with a tune and dyno.
I know a guy who used to have a tuned 335i, now he has a 400hp 550i....Or do you mean you want to look at the 2013 445hp version?


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I know a guy who used to have a tuned 335i, now he has a 400hp 550i....Or do you mean you want to look at the 2013 445hp version?
Looking for someone with the 445hp version so I can dyno test it, measure the boost/advance/afr levels, etc, to ensure the tune works properly for it. Which I expect it will.


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Default 12-16-2012, 10:06 AM

When can we buy? If you were on the east coast you would have a 650 in the shop ASAP...lol




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Hey Terry, remember me ? =], I got a 2012 650i new one with the same motor, when can I get this tune ?
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Default 12-16-2012, 09:19 PM

We're looking for BETA testers now so just email me.


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Default 12-16-2012, 09:31 PM

So is it just going to stay at Stage 1 or are you guys planning on adding more power and doing something more like a JB4 with steering wheel controls and whatnot? I might pick one of these up for my dad


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