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This is the central point of contact for all N54 JB4 related information. Anything from install directions, to firmware updates, to settings, to frequently asked questions. Any and all relevant info is linked in this post. If you come across something missing from here be sure to let us know.

Order the full N54 JB4 system here.

JB4 Board Upgrades, 2STEP/NLS, DATA cables, anti-lag, and other add-ons are available are here.

The latest JB4 ISO firmware is posted here.

The same BMS DATA to USB cable is used for all of our tunes and strongly suggested for free software updates and new features as we post them.

JB4 Interface: Latest Interface Download. When updating your interface you may need to first go to "add remove programs" and "remove" your previous JB4 interface.

For the full JB4 Install Guide click here.

If you need directions on how to connect a laptop to your JB4 to update firmware or how to datalog Click here.

Maps:

Map 0: Stock bypass.
Map 1: 13psi. Suggested for most racing applications.
Map 2: 14.5psi. Suggested for those with exhaust and 93 RM2 or higher octane.
Map 3: Progressive meth mapping with flow sensor failsafe. See guide to enable. Meth use isn't supported/suggested without a flow sensor and map 3.
Map 4: Stock map w/ CAN active. Allows full logging and in dash gauges on the stock mapping.
Map 5: Autotuning map. Boost ranges between 12-17psi based on your cars octane, conditions, and modifications. Fully E85 compatible. If using E85 we suggest around 30% to start. Refer to the E85 FAQ for addl info. Resets to 93 octane level adaptions when selected and adjusts itself up or down from there.
Map 6: User defined map generally only used for diagnostics or troubleshooting.
Map 7: Race gas map. 18.5psi peak boost on the G5 ISO. Requires straight 100-104+ RM2 octane unleaded racing fuel. The expensive stuff. We do not suggest using leaded racing fuel. To use this map with E85 requires the BMS E85 back end flash, inline booster fuel pump, and a 40%+ E85 mix, per E85 FAQ.

1) Steering wheel controls menu and video is in the 3rd post down.
2) JB4 has cold/hot oil protection built in. So expect stock like boost until oil temps are > 160 degrees. Same goes for oil temps > 280 degrees.
3) The JB4 has several safety systems built in that will force a switch to map 4 (low boost) if the JB4 notices various conditions. Including boost over target, fuel pressure below target, and air/fuel ratio running lean. If you ever encounter an automatic switch to map 4 review the FAQ below for addl information.

Those on lower grade fuels, running strong E85 mixtures, larger than factory turbos, or those interested in doing custom mapping will want to load our free JB4 back end flash.

FAQ

I made a post asking for help in this thread and I can't find it now. Where did it go?

Support requests and bug reports are generally deleted or moved from this thread without being read. If you require assistance from BMS email us at jon@burgertuning.com. Otherwise for log and tuning support post logs, details, and fault codes in n54tech's support section.

Can I use E85 ethanol fuel with the JB4? If so what mixture should I use?

1) Generally speaking you can run 30-40% E85 without the need for logging or worrying about fuel trims, fuel pressure, etc. Just mix E85 in and select map 5. Done.
2) For those wanting to run higher mixtures (and more power) then you need to datalog. You'll want to first look at your low fuel pressure in the JB4 logs. If that is dropping below 50 then you're maxing out the low fuel pressure and should either reduce the E85 mixture or add a Fuel-IT Stage1 fuel pump upgrade.
3) Next up look at fuel trims. If they are exceeding 50 in the JB4 logs & open loop is already at or above 90, or if you get 29F2 codes from having too high of an open loop, then you need to add the free BMS back end flash for E85 fuels to extend the fueling range. The E85 flash also features VANOS changes, higher than factory timing advance, and some other stuff designed to help make more power on E85.
4) Finally after the flash and low pressure pump, you need to keep an eye on the high pressure pump. If it drops below 9 @ wide open throttle then you're maxing out the high pressure pump and need to lower the E85 mixture or lower the boost in the areas where it's dropping below 10. Alternatively you can add in a port injection kit, meth kit, or TBI injection kit, to augment the high pressure fuel pump.
5) Most cars will need an inline fuel pump upgrade OR meth to run more than 50% E85. We suggest this inexpensive inline option.
6) Using map 7 requires 50-60% E85, the back end flash, AND the fuel pump upgrade.

What is a JB4 back end flash map?

A JB4 back end flash map is loaded on to your DME using a Bavarian Technic cable and free BimmerBoost software. This allows enhanced ignition/knock mapping, fuel mapping, and VANOS mapping, beyond what is possible with the JB4 alone. In addition the flash map disables the speed limiter eliminating the need for extra wires. It's strongly suggested for those using heavy E85 mixtures and also can greatly benefit those on low octane fuels such as 91 octane. JB4 flash map information and software is posted here.

How long does it take for map 5 to adapt?

Map 5 is designed to be continually adapting particularly focusing on the last three minutes or so of wide open throttle activity. Upon selecting map 5 it will default to "93 octane" levels (approx 14psi peak) and adapt up or down from there. Those running E30 mixtures will see the tuning become more aggressive (higher boost, higher timing, leaner AFR) during subsequent wide open throttle pulls while those running lower octane mixtures such as 91 octane will see the tuning become less aggressive (less boost, less timing, richer AFR) during subsequent wide open throttle pulls. It's important to note the map learning is always active. So should things take a turn for the worse during a run (intercooler outlet temps rising, oil temps rising, increased engine knock, etc) the tuning will respond accordingly.

If upgrading from an old JB3 system or JB4 G4 how do I rewire my harness to be compatible with a new JB4 G5 box?

Details are below and it takes around 15 minutes to perform. If after reviewing the guide you would prefer to pay us $25 to do the harness upgrade for you then select the appropriate upgrade kit from our site. We will hold your JB4 upgrade kit until you mail in your harness and box, modify the harness, and send the modified harness and JB4 box back to you. There will be a 1-2 week delay between when we receive your harness and return the modified harness.

For directions on how to modify your old JB3 wiring harness for the JB4 (including the old pin out harness) click here.

Install directions for JB4 G5 SLD wires and how to resolve 29D0 codes if doing a G4->G5 upgrade.

What is menu 5 for? Why doesn't my speed move in increments of 10 when making selections?

Upon installing the JB4 you'll need to use the menu 5 option to properly calibrate your gauges. Otherwise the numbers on the speedo, fuel gauge, and oil gauge won't align properly. You'll count up to 5 then set the tach based on your model and speedo type. Refer to the link below for the steering wheel controls sheet.

How do I read out and delete codes?

There are two methods. The easiest method for beginners is to connect the laptop interface and use the "read codes" button as indicated in the image below. This will give a full listing along with descriptions. Alternatively for more advanced users or if a laptop isn't available you may use the in dash reading on menu 1 option 1. For additional directions click here.

How does the traction assist work?

If you find traction problems too severe in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear you can cap the maximum boost/torque achieved in those gears to aid with traction. You'll find them under user settings. A value of 10.0 in 1st and 12.0 in 2nd will limit boost to 10.0psi while in 1st gear and 12.0psi while in 2nd gear. When in 1st or 2nd gear under the boost limit you may hold down the steering wheel volume or talk button to bypass the limit while the button is held down. For example if doing a burn out at the track.

How much boost can I run with a JB4?

The JB4 supports mapping up to 20psi out of the box. This is the limit of the factory TMAP sensor. For higher boost levels, you will need to add in a N20 3.5bar TMAP sensor using a special adapter available on our site. After adding the sensor you will update the "N20 TMAP" field to 1 within the JB4 interface to allow mapping up to 36psi.

Does the JB4 support larger than OEM turbos?

Yes. The JB4 is able to control OEM turbos, hybrid vacuum operated turbos such as RB & Vargas, and single turbo retrofits such as MOTIV, VM, and FFTEC. For hybrid turbos the appropriate back end flash file is required. Once the DME is flashed the JB4 map selection remains the same with the larger turbos. For single turbo kits many additional changes are required. See JB4 single turbo control thread for addl info.

I got a misfire code. What should I do?

Misfire codes are very common on the N54 motor and are generally either a defective plug, coil, injector, or if the misfires happen across multiple cylinders could also be an o2 sensor or high pressure fuel pump. The higher the power levels the more apparent hardware weakness are so often they will crop up first at only higher power levels. Eventually though, they will come up at OEM power levels too. If your plugs have over 15k miles on them I'd suggest switching them out. If that doesn't do the trick you can switch the coil on the misfiring cylinder over to another cylinder to see if the misfire moves with it. If it does, then replace that coil.

My SES light flashed and the JB4 switched to map 4 / low boost. What do I do now?

The JB4 has several active safety systems that will trigger SES light flashes.

The first is the over-boost safety. If boost exceeds the value you've set under user adjustment the SES light will flash once and the JB4 will switch itself to map 4 until you restart the car. The default setting is 18psi. Common causes for this are setting the value too low for the map/intended usage, improperly configured or defective wastegates, or JB4 setting problems.

The second is the run-lean safety system. If your air/fuel ratio (either bank) runs leaner than 14:1 over 4500rpm for more than a second the SES light will flash twice and the JB4 will again switch itself to map 4 until you restart the car. Common causes are maxed out fuel trims (see E85 notes above) or o2 sensor faults. Note any o2 sensor fault must be corrected for the tuning to operate properly.

Another commonly triggered fault is low fuel pressure. If your high fuel pressure drops below 7 (~800psi) the JB4 will flash the SES light three times and switch to map 4 until you restart the car. Common causes are an inadequate low pressure pump, too strong of an E85 mixture for your tuning/fuel pump, or a failing high pressure pump.

What is MaxCool mode?

MaxCool is an JB4 algorithm that improves engine cooling by increasing the speed of the electric water pump and engine cooling fan as a function of water temperature. When enabled you may hear the very loud engine fan and water pump running more often including at idle. MaxCool can be left on full time if you desire and is compatible with add on oil and water coolers such as the BMW PPK kit.

What are the user settings and which ones should I change?

Most are there for diagnostic use only and should not be touched unless you are directed to by your tuner. The settings you might adjust are documented below.

Boost Safety: If boost exceeds this value for more than one second the JB4 will switch to low boost map 4 until the car is restarted. Note this setting has no impact on what actual boost you run. That is determined by the map selected.

1st / 2nd / 3rd gear boost limit: For cars with poor traction limiting boost in 1st gear to for example 9psi and 2nd gear to 12psi can offer your tires some relief.

Default Wastegate Position (DWP): Menu 10 (0-5000rpm). The position the wastegate returns to when making less than 1.5psi of boost. Higher values can make the car feel more responsive but in some vehicles will make it more prone to "wastegate rattle". Lower values of say 800rpm are sometimes preferred to reduce rattle but might make low throttle feel more sluggish. Wastegate rattle is a hardware problem in nature and the software settings can only attempt to mask this issue. In some cases no setting can fully mask the rattle. This setting only effects performance at very low throttle input.

Pedal input: Menu 11 (0-5000rpm). This determines the gas pedal's impact on the boost target. A value of 0 will target 0psi up to 45% gas pedal input while a value of 5000rpm will target 0psi up to 5% gas pedal input. Regardless of setting full boost will be targeted at 100% gas pedal input. Note that depending on your menu 12 setting you will likely make more than 0psi regardless of this setting at lower gas pedal inputs when under load.

Base duty cycle: Menu 12 (0-5000rpm) and represents the minimum duty cycle to the boost solenoids. PWM will not drop below this value regardless of boost. The default setting is 2800rpm which is 28%. Going too high or low on this value may cause over/under boosting during low and partial throttle, surging, boost oscillation, and other headaches. Generally speaking this value should be set between 2400-2800rpm.

Duty Bias: Used for more advanced boost targeting adjustment is described in this thread: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29893

FutureUseD: Various logging parameters which vary by firmware version. Refer to firmware notes valid options.

Does the JB4 support large single turbo retrofits?

Yes! Details & directions are posted here: For those running larger single turbo systems refer to these special notes on how to configure the JB4.

How do I install the 2STEP/NLS add on kit for manual transmissions?

Download NLS/2STEP install guide here.

If I decide to get the optional DATA cable for logs and firmware updates how to I route it?

For the USB cable you have a couple options. Option 1 is to route it over the rubber grommet under the DME cover and leave it there for quick access.You'll just have to lift up the one snap on black panel and can then route it in the window or door jamb. Option 2 is to route it in to the glove box. There is a DIY here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6557

Do I need to do JB4 logs? If I do logs how do I interpret them?

Datalogging is a more advanced function generally only used when troubleshooting or for those who are looking to extract the most out of their vehicle. This thread contains info on what the various logging parameters mean and how to interpret them.. In addition JB4 logs can be posted in the support section if tuning advice is needed.


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This is the central post for all information related to the E series N54 G5 ISO firmware!

Please note that for any logs, bugs, concerns, problem reports, codes, etc, create a thread in the support section. Requests for assistance in this thread will be deleted without being read.

General Notes:

1) Posts to this thread that contain bug reports, logs, or tuning questions will be deleted without being read. If you need assistance post to the support forum.
2) G5 board must have diodes removed as shown in the photo below to run this firmware. BMS started shipping all boards as ISO early 2014. We've removed the diode photo to avoid confusion but if your firmware date is 10/1/12 before updating you need to cut them off before uploading ISO firmware. Click this link for the photo.
3) For a more in depth discussion on methanol settings and how to use map 3 without methanol read here.
4) Some addl info on custom tuning the JB4 boost control..
5) If using a 3.5bar TMAP sensor set "TMAP" to 1 and if using a 4bar TMAP sensor set "TMAP" to 2.

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Originally Posted by FutureUseD and other settings

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*Meth Safety Mode All Versions
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0 - Raise boost on map3 as a function of meth flow & historic timing (default)
1 - Raise boost on map3 as a function of meth flow only
2 - Start at normal target and failsafe IF flow drops below flow level for 1 second under boost. Enabled for all maps.
3 - When on map3 meth flow is completely ignored. Useful for using map3 as an adjustable non-meth map.
4 - Run a progressive meth safety on all maps

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*Meth Trigger Mode All Versions
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0 - Meth flows on maps 3, 6, and 7 (default operation)
1 - Meth flows on all maps
2 - Meth flows on map 3 only
3 - Meth is disabled on all maps

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*FUD N54 Twin Turbo Firmware
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bit0 - Disable steering wheel controls.
bit1 - Disable wastegate adaption.
bit2 - Use water temp in place of oil temp for warm up safety.
bit3 - Disable open loop fuel learning.
bit4 - Enable meth input Aquamist algorithm where 0-100% flow = .5v - 4.5v input.
bit5 - Show bank2 fuel trims under timingAVG.
bit6 - Disable FF RPM gain so duty bias RPM gain can be manually set more precisely.
bit7 - Alternative anti-rattle algorithm

FUA Twin Turbo Firmware:

0-50 - Lock in a differential between DME target and ECU PSI to reduce the throttle safety. 0 = default operation. 26 units per PSI. e.g. a value of 26 would dampen throttle safety an addl psi. This value will also reduce effective load reported back to the DME by that amount. For diagnostic purposes only.

51 - Output clutch position under low fuel pressure. For troubleshooting NLS.
52 - Alternative E85 cold start / cranking fuel algorithm
54 - Output 2STEP output PID under low fuel pressure.
55 - Fueling applied as a function of actual boost rather than delta over stock target. Useful for 335is models using E85 without a back end flash map.
56 - Output road speed instead of low fuel pressure.
57 - Output 4BAR learned adaption value instead of low fuel pressure.
58 - Change DB25#2 from methanol output to E85 analyzer input.

1st/2nd/3rd gear traction control. When enabled, hold volume up or channel down if you need to disable (for doing a burn out, etc).
G5_ISO_32_4

1) Additional work on 4bar logic. Added adaption algorithm to calibrate sensor each startup against MAP sensor.
2) Adjustment to 2STEP algorithm.

G5_ISO_32_3

1) Update to 4bar logic (TMAP=2) setting to correct false alarm 2ABD startup code
2) Added trans temp logging for automatics
3) Adjusted boost by gear settings such that any wheel control input disables the by gear boost setting. e.g. volume up or down, station up or down, or talk button. If equipped with anti-lag then volume down still triggers anti-lag and the anti-lag specific boost cap.

G5_ISO_32_2

1) Adjusted 3.5bar and 4bar TMAP FF scaling to auto compensate for new range. If you change the sensor you no longer need to retune duty bias or change FF. If upgrading from an older firmware FF should be lowered ~15-20% to speed up adaption.
2) Made menu11 gas pedal mapping range wider allowing for more aggressive behavior at higher settings.
3) Reduced boost taper on BEF map1, map2, & map5.
4) Moved CANflap to an on/off toggle on option 4/5.
5) Menu4 options are now as follows: 4/2 BEF, 4/3 no BEF, 4/4 Flash Only. Default is 4/3. Note the new menu 4/4 option and details below only apply to those who are not using JB4 tuning and simply want to use the JB4 for gauges and datalogging. If you are using JB4 tuning and/or JB4 back end flash maps read no further.

When mode 4/4 Flash Only is selected the follow occurs:

A) On any map other than 0 the JB4 acts like map4, bypass mode, with JB4 logging/gauges active. The JB4 does not change or alter the tuning. If using JB4 controlled meth then meth will flow on maps 3, 6, and 7 but without a safety system and ignoring whatever boost target the JB4 is programmed to for that map.
B) If you leave the white subconnector installed, the JB4 runs boost targeting using its user adjustment settings including menu 10, 12, FF, duty bias by RPM, anti-rattle, etc. The target is always equal to the flash boost target but the JB4 runs the actual wastegate control. This is useful for switching back and forth between flash only and JB4 maps without opening the DME. Also lets the JB4 mask one of the common problems with flash tuning which is the boost control.
C) If you put the white only subconnector back to stock, as shown in the photo, and what I've done for the flash map testing, then the JB4 and its boost control settings have no influence at all on boost control. It's 100% strictly logging and gauges only.
D) With option 4/4 selected map0 disables the JB4 CANbus module all together allowing for OBDII logging via the MHD. The catch is to use map0 in this mode then you must also run the configuration outlined in 3) with the white subconnector back to stock. The JB4 can not properly control boost without its CANbus module active so map0 on option 4/4 will result in zero boost unless the white subconnector is placed back to stock.


JB4 Interface: Latest Interface Download. When updating your interface you may need to first go to "add remove programs" and "remove" your previous JB4 interface.

For those running larger single turbo systems refer to these special notes on how to configure the JB4.

Anti-LAG feature discussion and details here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33028

***DO NOT UPLOAD FIRMWARE UNTIL YOU READ THIS *** The latest firmware later REQUIRES JB4 INTERFACE DATED 3/1/15 OR NEWER AND SETTING CHANGES. All Duty Bias (formerly CPS) must be set to 0 or 50 to avoid 30FF under boost codes. 3rd gear boost limiting should also be set to 0 to disable. Failure to do this will result in poor performance.*** Also note the new menu 12 range is 2000rpm to 3000rpm with a default of 2800rpm. Going too low on menu 12 may cause low throttle boost oscillation

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Wheel control guide:

*Note does not reflect v32.2 Menu4 changes documented above.





How do the new steering wheel controls work?



What is the startup gauge sweep?



Default settings:
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Default 11-19-2010, 10:58 AM

Terry, can you elaborate on the Drag launch feature? Will it work with AT? Because my main problem is the turbo lag from the moment i let off the brake. If I was able to stall up and build boost, i could have cut a 1.7 or even 1.6 and been in the 11s on my tune only run
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Last night in testing I was able to build around 15psi off the line. I need to refine it a bit and then will post up some logs.


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Default 11-19-2010, 11:17 AM

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Last night in testing I was able to build around 15psi off the line. I need to refine it a bit and then will post up some logs.
OMG so much win, i cant wait for that, thats gonne be nuts! The most i could build before was like 2psi!!
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You say the PRO board is for the heavily modified. What is considered heavily modified? *********, Intake, FMIC, tune?
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Last night in testing I was able to build around 15psi off the line. I need to refine it a bit and then will post up some logs.
Dammnit! there goes my shafts..might as well put the order in now.
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OMG so much win, i cant wait for that, thats gonne be nuts! The most i could build before was like 2psi!!
2psi is pretty low! I can brake torque up to around 5-6psi on the G3 before I push through the brakes? That is the biggest problem with the launch mode right now. I'm going to set it up to build up boost but then close the throttle say 75%. So when you let off the brake the throttle snaps 100% open with full boost behind it.


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Default 11-19-2010, 12:33 PM

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Last night in testing I was able to build around 15psi off the line. I need to refine it a bit and then will post up some logs.
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5 more alpha systems going out today. Will bring us up to around 25 out there once they all get installed. After the holiday it transfers over to the production crew so we can start cranking out some volume. And not a moment too soon!


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Default 11-19-2010, 03:41 PM

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Last night in testing I was able to build around 15psi off the line. I need to refine it a bit and then will post up some logs.
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This will work with standard transmissions, right?
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Hey congrats to the alpha group, I'm glad for you... You lucky no good sons of bitches, go **** yourself.... Lol jk
Alpha testing is quite a bit of work! Are you willing to run at least a dozen 1/4mile and 0-130mph runs on your car a week? And after firmware updates, doing it again, run after run to see the differences? When all is said and done, I will have well over a 100 qtr mile test runs in this test program.

I'm sure some testers are doing more everyday driving and short acceleration bursts, but pretty much all of my testing goes from 0-130+ to help those of you in the 1/4 mile department


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:D when you put it that way lol...thank you hotrod i appreciate your dedication and hard work


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Alpha testing is quite a bit of work! Are you willing to run at least a dozen 1/4mile and 0-130mph runs on your car a week? And after firmware updates, doing it again, run after run to see the differences? When all is said and done, I will have well over a 100 qtr mile test runs in this test program.

I'm sure some testers are doing more everyday driving and short acceleration bursts, but pretty much all of my testing goes from 0-130+ to help those of you in the 1/4 mile department
LOL, i was just thinking this, but i fall in the 2nd group. if had a JB4 that is
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LOL, i was just thinking this, but i fall in the 2nd group. if had a JB4 that is
Yup. And I must say the 500-600 qtr mile runs I have done with a Juicebox says alot about the reliability of the platform.


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Alpha testing really is like having an unpaid part time job. We very much appreciate those customers willing to help!


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Alpha testing is quite a bit of work! Are you willing to run at least a dozen 1/4mile and 0-130mph runs on your car a week? And after firmware updates, doing it again, run after run to see the differences? When all is said and done, I will have well over a 100 qtr mile test runs in this test program.

I'm sure some testers are doing more everyday driving and short acceleration bursts, but pretty much all of my testing goes from 0-130+ to help those of you in the 1/4 mile department
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Default 11-20-2010, 03:31 PM

Kinda bitter-sweet for us non-alpha guys.
Looking at past developments, approximately how long was the alpha period before hitting beta?

Also, if Terry allows, I would love to hear some initial thoughts from the alpha people once they log some miles.

Looking forward to getting into the beta!
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Default 11-20-2010, 04:23 PM

I'm fully bolt on...but no meth or upgraded turbos running 2.0 on map 7. Do I wait for the Pro, or should I just stick with the JB4? Is pro really for only the upgraded turbo/meth guys?
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I'd go for the G4 to tide you over.


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I'm fully bolt on...but no meth or upgraded turbos running 2.0 on map 7. Do I wait for the Pro, or should I just stick with the JB4? Is pro really for only the upgraded turbo/meth guys?
Yes, plus nitrous. It has better progressive control with nitrous and meth. Really jb4 will be fine for methanol when using cmgs fs as usual.
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Yes, plus nitrous. It has better progressive control with nitrous and meth. Really jb4 will be fine for methanol when using cmgs fs as usual.
got you....So im reading on the differences and all. And it sounds like there will be a lot more features and its got some more processing power. But what difference will I feel in terms of driving, how the car drives and power? Are the maps still going to be similar?
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