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Default 10-20-2017, 02:50 PM

Terry any updates on the intakes?? Haven’t heard an update for a while...


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Default 10-20-2017, 10:54 PM

Can someone please describe the danger of say 4-5 plus boost in a RS. Seems like you guys are cautious about going 5 plus on a premium or silver sport. How does better gas make it safer? I've done some research and read about knock with worse gas. Also, what kind of issue would a log show if using too much boost. Map 1 on my RS is awesome but I'm now worried about using it with 93 octane based on what over read on here.. On map 6 I've been running pretty aggressive setup. A few pages ago someone had posted about asking Terry what he recommended for a red sport and he posted the recs. I subtracted one from each number. Giving: 3, 3, 3, 3.5, 4, 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1. This seems to be a strong setup but it doesn't pull as strong as map 1. What are your thoughts on the red sport Terry. Do you think we're pushing it too hard. What are all the RS people on hear running?
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Default 10-21-2017, 06:24 AM

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Can someone please describe the danger of say 4-5 plus boost in a RS. Seems like you guys are cautious about going 5 plus on a premium or silver sport. How does better gas make it safer? I've done some research and read about knock with worse gas. Also, what kind of issue would a log show if using too much boost. Map 1 on my RS is awesome but I'm now worried about using it with 93 octane based on what over read on here.. On map 6 I've been running pretty aggressive setup. A few pages ago someone had posted about asking Terry what he recommended for a red sport and he posted the recs. I subtracted one from each number. Giving: 3, 3, 3, 3.5, 4, 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1. This seems to be a strong setup but it doesn't pull as strong as map 1. What are your thoughts on the red sport Terry. Do you think we're pushing it too hard. What are all the RS people on hear running?
For me on my rs on 94 I prefer +3 from 1500 to 5500(I feel safer) and 6000 to 7000 +0. map1 don't feel to pull a lot stronger than my map6
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Default 10-21-2017, 06:36 AM

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Can someone please describe the danger of say 4-5 plus boost in a RS. Seems like you guys are cautious about going 5 plus on a premium or silver sport. How does better gas make it safer? I've done some research and read about knock with worse gas. Also, what kind of issue would a log show if using too much boost. Map 1 on my RS is awesome but I'm now worried about using it with 93 octane based on what over read on here.. On map 6 I've been running pretty aggressive setup. A few pages ago someone had posted about asking Terry what he recommended for a red sport and he posted the recs. I subtracted one from each number. Giving: 3, 3, 3, 3.5, 4, 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1. This seems to be a strong setup but it doesn't pull as strong as map 1. What are your thoughts on the red sport Terry. Do you think we're pushing it too hard. What are all the RS people on hear running?
Here's an article that offers some info on RS turbo limitations:
https://blog.stillen.com/2016/12/to-...30ddtt-turbos/
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Default 10-21-2017, 07:59 AM

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I have the jb1 and have been using map 3 (+4 PSI with DSW at 30). I put in 93 since it is available around my area. I also don't want to mess around with e85 as Iam very happy with the results. I have been running this set up up around 2000 miles with no issues at all. You deff feel the low end torque as the car rips around the 2200 rpms. I also have the red sport Q60. I am very happy with the jb1.
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Default 10-21-2017, 08:43 AM

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I have the jb1 and have been using map 3 (+4 PSI with DSW at 30). I put in 93 since it is available around my area. I also don't want to mess around with e85 as Iam very happy with the results. I have been running this set up up around 2000 miles with no issues at all. You deff feel the low end torque as the car rips around the 2200 rpms. I also have the red sport Q60. I am very happy with the jb1.
Happy to year it! We plan to offer both the Stage1 and the JB4 concurrently as I think they each appeal to slightly different crowds.


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Default 10-21-2017, 09:02 AM

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Has anyone used a higher octane grade of fuel in conjunction with the jb1/jb4?

100 octane and up? Any difference?
I've been running my JB1 @ +5psi on my RS400 using Cam2 100 octane. Car runs strong
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Default 10-21-2017, 10:56 AM

Thanks for that article by Stillen very informative! Based on that I'm going to try a new map 6: 4, 4, 4, 4.5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3.5, 3, 2, 1, 0. Based on factory boost this would be 18 lbs max between 4-5 K and basically keeping boost at or below 17 above 5500 RPM. Boostfeen might not be safe having JB1 at 5 plus targeting at all RPMs according to that article. Would be way outside that curve at the higher end. If you like 5 plus might be a good idea to upgrade to JB4 so you can taper down at higher RPMs. I'm a total beginner with this so any professional:more knowledgeable input would be greatly appreciated. From what the article said too, seems there is no real downside of high lower end boost other than drivability. Is that true?

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Default 10-21-2017, 11:39 AM

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Thanks for that article by Stillen very informative! Based on that I'm going to try a new map 6: 4, 4, 4, 4.5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 3.5, 3, 2, 1, 0. Based on factory boost this would be 18 lbs max between 4-5 K and basically keeping boost at or below 17 above 5500 RPM. Boostfeen might not be safe having JB1 at 5 plus targeting at all RPMs according to that article. Would be way outside that curve at the higher end. If you like 5 plus might be a good idea to upgrade to JB4 so you can taper down at higher RPMs. I'm a total beginner with this so any professional:more knowledgeable input would be greatly appreciated. From what the article said too, seems there is no real downside of high lower end boost other than drivability. Is that true?
Hi. Let us know how this new map of yours feels like. I actually tried having a high lower end boost and it felt like the car gave up at higher speeds, higher rpm. On my own butt dyno, following the natural boost curve of the car yielded better results.
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Default 10-23-2017, 09:56 AM

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Terry any updates on the intakes?? Havenít heard an update for a while...
They are supposed to be here two weeks ago. The reason we don't bother selling things until we have them is that delays happen and we don't want to waste our time with continual "are they in yet" type questions. When we have them ready to sell we will sell them. Until then, you'll just have to wait.


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Default 10-23-2017, 09:58 AM

Added JB4 to the website along side Stage1 in the drop down for $479. To differentiate them visually and give a little extra value for the higher price point the JB4 systems will include the larger black plastic enclosure like this:



We'll leave the Stage1-JB4 upgrade kits at $50 + $25 core until 10/25 and then that price goes up to $100 with no core charge/refund. So if you are planning on getting an upgrade kit today is a good day to do it.


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Default 10-23-2017, 11:06 AM

Terry, what happened to the plastic enclosures with the screws? Those felt more substantial. These clip together ones feel kinda low end. I decided to put the new one on my old EWG JB4 (thats getting sold) and keep my nice screw shut one for my X3.


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Default 10-23-2017, 11:11 AM

New date for the intake is end of the week ( Hopefully).
Production is done. We are just waiting for anodize coating to be done.


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Default 10-23-2017, 11:15 AM

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New date for the intake is end of the week ( Hopefully).
Production is done. We are just waiting for anodize coating to be done.
How about some pics?
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Default 10-23-2017, 11:47 AM

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New date for the intake is end of the week ( Hopefully).
Production is done. We are just waiting for anodize coating to be done.
Good news - Do we have an estimate on the level of installation effort (e.g. more or less effort than installing the JB4 Upgrade kit?)
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hey terry, just got this jb4 bluetooth kit. which wire are you guys splicing into with the positap?
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hey terry, just got this jb4 bluetooth kit. which wire are you guys splicing into with the positap?
Check out posts #346 & #371 - either of the red wires works.

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New date for the intake is end of the week ( Hopefully).
Production is done. We are just waiting for anodize coating to be done.
Just because the intakes land on our dock doens't mean we're able to sell them yet. We still have to do some more final internal testing before we can ship any.


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Default 10-23-2017, 12:56 PM

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Just because the intakes land on our dock doens't mean we're able to sell them yet. We still have to do some more final internal testing before we can ship any.
And that is why Stillen and AMS cannot compete with BMS - you guys actually test your products before selling them.
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There are A LOT of people waiting for working intakes...
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Hey Terry, I have the JB4 upgrade kit. Wondering if there is any way to get the larger JB4 plastic enclosure? Also, is there a place to put the BT connect kit in the larger enclosure?
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Default 10-23-2017, 02:53 PM

The N55 upgrades page has the larger enclosure for $20. The BT kit still sits outside the enclosure, though.


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How do I hook this up via Bluetooth? Something I'm missing?
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You need the JB4 mobile app to use the blue tooth adapter.


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I have it.
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