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Default 06-11-2018, 08:57 AM

This one is normal. Other one has a wonky DME BT. Likely a BEF issue we need to sort, so include a reference to that in the email and we'll work on it.
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Default 06-11-2018, 10:21 AM

i will test it next week when i got the meth kit installed and the tune from david , he talked to you about it
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Default 06-11-2018, 06:51 PM

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Good news, looks like we finally have a fix in the BEF maps for that annoying 120308 under boost code. I need a couple guys to test it before I post it though. Email me the full file name you need and I'll shoot it over.
It's fixed in the BEF? Thought it needed to be coded out by MHD?

What about the guys who have done the PWG ISO mod but aren't using the BMS BEF? Where's the love?


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Default 06-11-2018, 07:12 PM

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It's fixed in the BEF? Thought it needed to be coded out by MHD?

What about the guys who have done the PWG ISO mod but aren't using the BMS BEF? Where's the love?
Think you'll have to bite the bullet and get a BEF. Car runs way better this way so it's really the only way to go forward.


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Default 06-11-2018, 07:23 PM

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Think you'll have to bite the bullet and get a BEF. Car runs way better this way so it's really the only way to go forward.
I'm already using a Trebila BEF on my PS2 car. I didn't want to send Terry 10 emails a day (I was already sending him 3 LOL) to fine tune my setup and now I'm happy with what I have.

Originally, it was said that the problem would be addressed by MHD pulling the code out of the system. I was asking how the problem of the PWG ISO mod that caused the low boost problem would be addressed on cars not using a BMS BEF. Maybe they can share the love with the other tuners and let them know how to get around it?


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Default 06-12-2018, 07:15 AM

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I'm already using a Trebila BEF on my PS2 car. I didn't want to send Terry 10 emails a day (I was already sending him 3 LOL) to fine tune my setup and now I'm happy with what I have.

Originally, it was said that the problem would be addressed by MHD pulling the code out of the system. I was asking how the problem of the PWG ISO mod that caused the low boost problem would be addressed on cars not using a BMS BEF. Maybe they can share the love with the other tuners and let them know how to get around it?
My "boost under target" was fixed waaaaay back by adjusting 6cyl setting which Terry implemented based on my feedback. I have not had any problems since but also have not been running JB4 for the last half year. A little anxious getting back in the game but I need to try getting under 7sec 100-200 and JB4+meth is the only ****tail that work for this hehe


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Default 06-12-2018, 07:29 AM

hi terry i flashed new file pwg3_racr4_c (send me mail )

it fix "boost under target"
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Default Back on JB4 - 06-13-2018, 09:50 PM

Back on JB4 after a long leave of absence... Doesn't look too shabby. DB is a bit wonky so I'll try to manually adjust that a bit and see. Next up - methanol
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Default N20 TMAP flash supported - 06-13-2018, 11:15 PM

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Will I confuse the JB4 if I load the flash with N20 TMAP support? I guess there will be some boost target issues on map3...?


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Default 06-14-2018, 09:04 AM

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Will I confuse the JB4 if I load the flash with N20 TMAP support? I guess there will be some boost target issues on map3...?
If you flash the car with MHD and have the 3.5BAR box checked off, you need to put 0 in the JB4 Tmap value.


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Default 06-14-2018, 06:13 PM

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If you flash the car with MHD and have the 3.5BAR box checked off, you need to put 0 in the JB4 Tmap value.
But if I put 0 in the N20 TMAP then I'll be running much lower boost targets on map3 maxing out at ~20psi with 75adder as opposed to 25 - correct?

Never mind. I'll just let the JB4 do the N20/N55 TMAP thing. Swapping the TMAP is a 5min job anyway.

PS...BM3 BEF here


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Default 06-14-2018, 09:20 PM

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Will I confuse the JB4 if I load the flash with N20 TMAP support? I guess there will be some boost target issues on map3...?
Won't work right that way. JB4 has to manage the TMAP scaling.


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Default 06-15-2018, 06:59 AM

So far no DT error with the new BEF.
Next, we need more improvement on pedal response.


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Default 06-15-2018, 07:07 PM

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November 30 2017 you sent me a FW with progressive meth control - has that code remained in the following FW?

As you can see in the log it was working - kind of... Is this a feature that we can revisit?
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Default 06-15-2018, 07:51 PM

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So far no DT error with the new BEF.
Next, we need more improvement on pedal response.
Glad to hear... Posted updated BEF maps with 120308 deleted. Working on PWG2 and PWG3, I think PWG1 still needs some work.


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November 30 2017 you sent me a FW with progressive meth control - has that code remained in the following FW?

As you can see in the log it was working - kind of... Is this a feature that we can revisit?
Sure, should still be in there and active. There is a toggle on the WMI page to enable it.


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Default 06-16-2018, 01:14 AM

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Sure, should still be in there and active. There is a toggle on the WMI page to enable it.
Nice!


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Default T14 - 06-16-2018, 05:29 PM

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Meth in map0 works great. T14 approved from here
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Default Auto-DB - Yesterday, 10:29 PM

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All in all this looks pretty solid. However, when I try to adjust DB manually to smooth out the boost curve the auto-DB has its own way. Only thing to do is to turn auto-tune off? Or are we back to playing with PID? Adjusting PID has never done much for me...

DB setting vs boost:
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All in all this looks pretty solid. However, when I try to adjust DB manually to smooth out the boost curve the auto-DB has its own way. Only thing to do is to turn auto-tune off? Or are we back to playing with PID? Adjusting PID has never done much for me...

DB setting vs boost:
Boost looks on target to me, why did you need to adjust duty bias?


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