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Default 11-14-2017, 03:07 AM

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Higher grade fuels, like on racing fuel or E85 mixtures.
In your guesstimate, what would be the estimated result of using map 2 on 98 octane?

After seeing 18bora's 12.5@111mph (map 1, 93 octane) and 12.3@113mph (map 2, 93 octane), the difference between Map 1 and Map 2 seems to be the difference of 20whp?

Are the boost settings higher in map 2? Or is it simply just tuned for different higher grade fuel without any increases in the boost settings?
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Default 11-14-2017, 08:35 AM

Without detailed data logging its difficult to say for sure. So play around with both maps, and see what works best, for your particular setup.


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Default 11-20-2017, 06:54 PM

Is the BMS JB1 for the C43 M276 Motor compatible with the bluetooth module?

http://www.burgertuning.com/bluetoot...nnect_kit.html
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Default 11-20-2017, 08:24 PM

Yes but it only works to adjust maps and monitor boost, there is no CANbus data on Stage1 for full logging. At least not yet.


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Default 11-20-2017, 08:30 PM

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Yes but it only works to adjust maps and monitor boost, there is no CANbus data on Stage1 for full logging. At least not yet.
The engine bay is quite hot. The JB Bluetooth wont fail due to heat right? Or I should only have it installed when I intend to do tuning and disconnect it otherwise?

Also, I currently have the data cable. Should the JB1 be disconnected from the vehicle (or it can stay connected to the vehicle as long as the vehicle is off for 5mins so ECU can sleep) while I use the JB4 Software to change the map settings?
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Default 11-20-2017, 08:45 PM

It needs to be routed somewhere relatively cool as does the JB1 control box. Under a plastic cover is the norm.

Data cable can only be used when JB1 is installed and vehicle powered up.


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Default 11-20-2017, 10:22 PM

The displayed information in the JB4 software is exactly the same under map 1 and map 2.
It is the same under every tab as far as I can tell.
User adjustment is
Boost Safety: 3.0
Fuel Open Loop: 40
TMAP Voltage: 1.96

And Everything else is 0.0

Under WMI everything is the same as well.

Is this normal?

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Default 11-21-2017, 12:34 AM

Terry, Im really really sorry to keep bugging you. Can you just look at the pics below and tell me how my installation was and if it was done correct? Especially the brown wire

BMS Original Installation Instructional Photo


My Engine Bay Over View AFTER installation



Position A Rainbow Wire


Position B Purple Wire



Position C Brown Wire



I was not able to completely follow your instructions with regards to where to place the JB1 unit. It seems the wall inbetween the brakeboost and engine bay is solid on the GLC43?


There is however a soft rubber patch in that area but it is uncut and would need to be cut in order for anything to be fit through there. Is that what you guys did?


Please tell me how my installation looks, and most importantly if the wires are correctly placed.

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Default 11-21-2017, 09:41 AM

Seems OK to me.. If you record a JB1 log, I can verify the tuning and all connections are working properly!


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Default 11-21-2017, 09:47 AM

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Seems OK to me.. If you record a JB1 log, I can verify the tuning and all connections are working properly!
Since you told me that the engine needs to be on in order for the JB4 program to be working properly, and that I do not yet have the bluetooth unit...should I just rev it a few times in idle?


Also are Map 1 and Map 2 supposed to display the same information under User Adjustment and WMI tabs?
Both display Boost Safety = 3.0 and Open Fuel Loop 40 only. Everything else is 0 or 0.0
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Record a full throttle run.


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Default 11-21-2017, 10:25 AM

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Record a full throttle run.
This means I would require either a Dyno or the bluetooth module?
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Default 11-21-2017, 10:32 AM

When you have a BMS data cable or bluetooth module. Otherwise, just drive and see if its working. With no cable no way to record a log or share any data with us, of coruse.


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Default 11-21-2017, 03:43 PM

How do I record a run with the data cable? Leave my hood open while I drive?
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Hood fully closed! Run cable out back towards windshield and in to door jamb or window to laptop or device.


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Default 11-21-2017, 05:56 PM

http://www.burgertuning.com/USB_Cable_Extension.html

Hi Terry, im going to purchase a data cable for my JB1 that is coming in the mail. What is the one for a 2018 C43? it is asking for E series or F series before I purchase the cable.

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Default 11-21-2017, 06:40 PM

Eitehr one works. But the enclosure on existing Stage1 fits best with the gray shell. E series.

We're going to be changing the MB Stage1 enclosure to a larger style, and raising the price, shortly. And on those you'll want the F series cable.


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Default 11-22-2017, 05:53 PM

Terry,

Can you tell me if Map 1 and Map 2 are supposed to display the same information under the user adjustment and WMI tabs in the JB4 software?
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