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Have you been able to reliably tune with TBI and no ethanol? That would be a good starting point.

This B58 engine and DME are completely different and are presenting a lot of problems that were not present in the N54 and N55. Unfortunately, we can't carry over all of our tuning knowledge directly from those platforms. So don't be surprised if we can't figure **** out.
Still working on it....it snowed here over the weekend so gonna do some more testing tommorow.
Iíll try running it with straight 93 see how it goes on my next fill up.


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Nitrous fogger my mistake. It has poor atomization property. It shoots fuel out like a squirt gun. Because Ryanís car was a disaster and undrivable with nearly 7lbs of overboosting and two turbo revisionís. He couldnít WOT the car without an issue. Hence why the product hasnt been tested throughly. Even Terry said the turbo is too aggressive for the car. Iím not gonna argue with facts. Thatís why Ryan returned the turbo after 8weeks of a headaches. Not saying you have a bad product but itís rushed imho.
When he installed the 64mm turbo the car stopped overboosting, however with a DA of -1100 FT it is imposible to correctly tune a car. I am working now on another solution for it. I did refunded him his money. The issue started due to the cold weather. Even stock cars are having the same issue with this weather. Ryan is keeping the kit we will get him the new manifold and wastegate that will for sure solve the issue with the boost control.


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Default 12-11-2017, 05:17 PM

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Nitrous fogger my mistake. It has poor atomization property. It shoots fuel out like a squirt gun. Because Ryanís car was a disaster and undrivable with nearly 7lbs of overboosting and two turbo revisionís. He couldnít WOT the car without an issue. Hence why the product hasnt been tested throughly. Even Terry said the turbo is too aggressive for the car. Iím not gonna argue with facts. Thatís why Ryan returned the turbo after 8weeks of a headaches. Not saying you have a bad product but itís rushed imho.
I also thought about buying dual meth nozzles and hooking the TBI kit to that because they do atomize better than the nitrous fogger.


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Default 12-11-2017, 05:19 PM

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I also thought about buying dual meth nozzles and hooking the TBI kit to that because they do atomize better than the nitrous fogger.
If customers want we can develop this and replace the current foggers in the already sold TBIs.


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Default 12-11-2017, 05:24 PM

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I also thought about buying dual meth nozzles and hooking the TBI kit to that because they do atomize better than the nitrous fogger.
Did you test what I told you? Or is it snowing still?


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Default 12-11-2017, 05:47 PM

I would highly recommend cm nozzles instead using a nos fogger. The only nitrous company that makes good fuel foggers is nitrous outlet and wizards of nos.
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Default 12-11-2017, 06:42 PM

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If customers want we can develop this and replace the current foggers in the already sold TBIs.
After watching some videos i would deff like to swap out the NOS fogger to meth nozzle. Atomization is a lot better with meth nozzle.

Iím gonna try those settings tommorow and post some new logs.


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Default 12-12-2017, 05:07 AM

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After watching some videos i would deff like to swap out the NOS fogger to meth nozzle. Atomization is a lot better with meth nozzle.

Iím gonna try those settings tommorow and post some new logs.
Count me in on that. Just seems like a better approach.


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Default 12-12-2017, 10:07 AM

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Iíve had this car for 2 years. I know what works and what doesnít. My friend Ryan also had the tbi kit from BB. And he took it off. Aside from that if you wanna keep playing with nitrous solenoids for fuel. Be my guest. Iím not gonna **** talk Bigboost but they rush things with not much thought.
Ah, didn't realize you were a 2-year expert.

I wasn't talking specifically about the bigboost kit for B58, have no knowledge/interest in them. I have the Fuel-It TBI for N54 so very familiar with how/when TBI's operate.

Just your comment that TBI wouldn't work because of IPW. Saying that shows you have a misunderstanding of the fuel system. Trims (reflection of how much fuel DME commands to injectors) will normally go down with TBI active. If not you likely have it installed wrong or adjusted poorly.


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Default 12-12-2017, 10:46 AM

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Ah, didn't realize you were a 2-year expert.

I wasn't talking specifically about the bigboost kit for B58, have no knowledge/interest in them. I have the Fuel-It TBI for N54 so very familiar with how/when TBI's operate.

Just your comment that TBI wouldn't work because of IPW. Saying that shows you have a misunderstanding of the fuel system. Trims (reflection of how much fuel DME commands to injectors) will normally go down with TBI active. If not you likely have it installed wrong or adjusted poorly.
Itís more complicated on the b58. Iíve spoken to Steve from fuel it and weíre gonna need to change a few things with a backend flash or trick a few sensors on the b58 to use its fuel system for additional fuel. The car wants to maintain a certain afr and when more fuel gets dumped into it it seems as if the dmebt gets wonky from what he explained to me.
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Itís more complicated on the b58. Iíve spoken to Steve from fuel it and weíre gonna need to change a few things with a backend flash or trick a few sensors on the b58 to use its fuel system for additional fuel. The car wants to maintain a certain afr and when more fuel gets dumped into it it seems as if the dmebt gets wonky from what he explained to me.
Iím deff noticing that.


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That sucks.


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Default 12-22-2017, 04:57 PM

Updates?


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Default 12-22-2017, 07:16 PM

I stopped putting in e85
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I switched the nos fogger to dual meth nozzles.
It seems to be to much fuel. So I’m going down to 1 meth nozzle.
Also took off the d@wnpipe
The car is fighting the extra fuel.
Timing is zero out.
The trims are goin down to 9
Almost like the dme sees the extra fuel and is spraying less fuel through the injectors.


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Default 12-24-2017, 12:17 PM

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I stopped putting in e85
Now
I switched the nos fogger to dual meth nozzles.
It seems to be to much fuel. So Iím going down to 1 meth nozzle.
Also took off the d@wnpipe
The car is fighting the extra fuel.
Timing is zero out.
The trims are goin down to 9
Almost like the dme sees the extra fuel and is spraying less fuel through the injectors.
Got any logs to post?


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Default 12-24-2017, 09:22 PM

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Got any logs to post?
No they were bad.
I didnít even bother saving them.
Itís fustrating.
I will do some more testing after the holiday and report with hopefully some good news.


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Default 12-25-2017, 12:24 AM

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No they were bad.
I didnít even bother saving them.
Itís fustrating.
I will do some more testing after the holiday and report with hopefully some good news.
Yeah, the reason I added meth was because I didn't think TBI would be the answer on this platform. We might be able to figure out some tuning with the JB4, but it might not be as good as with meth.


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This thread sure went quiet fast. Nobody is having success with the kit?


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Default 01-13-2018, 10:33 PM

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This thread sure went quiet fast. Nobody is having success with the kit?
Iím using the newest update Iíll post some logs of my progress.
Weather has been bad here in NY lately.


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Default 01-13-2018, 10:34 PM

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Iím using the newest update Iíll post some logs of my progress.
Weather has been bad here in NY lately.
Were you able to get timing up?


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