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Default 08-09-2016, 01:50 PM

I would be interested in running this on top of my EC tune for 93 octane & *** less **'s.
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Default 08-09-2016, 02:06 PM

Jb4 and the piggy are the same. The bcm may be needed at higher HP levels


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Sorry, I meant can the JB4 used by itself to add power or do I need to buy the stage 1 piggyback as well?
The JB4 is an upgrade kit (replaces) the Stage1 tune.


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Default 08-09-2016, 02:34 PM

Sounds good...I'm ready when you are and I'll start sending logs while still running my tune and go from there. The GF can wait, so I'll order our JB4's at the same time.
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Default 08-09-2016, 02:39 PM

Terry looks like several more Guys are on board on the e70/71 X board. What boost levels does the bcm come into play ?


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Default 08-09-2016, 02:51 PM

Basically anything over +4psi it's going to be worthwhile. But I'm evaluating that now. Working on absolute maps. I'm thinking:

map0: JB4 fully disabled
map1: for pump fuels with/without the BCM
map2: for BCM + pump fuel
map3: for BCM + higher octane fuel like E30, a little race gas mixed in, etc.
map4: stock w/ CAN active
map5: //M map ramping up boost target towards redline
map6: User defined map (additive or absolute values)
map7: Progressive methanol control/mapping


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Default 08-09-2016, 03:01 PM

So map 1, 93 pump gas with about 3-4 psi over stock. That should be similar results you had in the x6m test ? Looks good do you know where boost targets will be yet on each map or will it take some testing?


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Default 08-10-2016, 07:57 AM

Does the JB4 allow for modified shift points, launch RPM increase, 2-step boost off the line? Yes I'm looking to destroy my transmission

I'm assuming users are able to tune their own maps as well for boost, timing, etc. (Map 6?)

I'm also curious to see how much headroom the stock fuel system can support as I have E85 in my area and at what boost level the stock turbos lose efficiency.
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Default 08-10-2016, 10:41 AM

This version won't allow any of that, sorry, other than user adjustable boost profiles. And boost by gear settings.

On the E85 testing looks so far E30 looks like about the limit at around 20psi. Which is more than 2x the factory boost pressure.


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Default 08-10-2016, 02:52 PM

Please sign me up for this on my X5M

I have been waiting on getting the stage1 for my x5m and this will defiantly push over the edge to get on board now.

I'm assuming that map0 is full stock mode? ... This would be great so that I could have the truck run in stock mode for the wife.

Any possibility to remove the limiter at 155 ... ?
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Default 08-10-2016, 04:01 PM

Terry I thought 14-17psi was stock range depending on altitude and temperature


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Map0 is stock mode. No plans to put a delimiter on it right now.


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Do you think we can run over 20psi or is that going to require meth as some additional fuel


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Default 08-10-2016, 04:40 PM

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Terry I thought 14-17psi was stock range depending on altitude and temperature
Pre and post tune, I still never see over 17.4psi, which is what I've read is stock. I'm using an Android tablet paired to an OBDII Bluetooth dongle running the Torque app. Once I can run the JB4 hardware and software, I'm hoping it's logging will tell me otherwise since everything I've tried in Torque hasn't helped.
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Default 08-10-2016, 04:54 PM

Yes we'll have to evaluate the logs once the JB4 is on. Curious how the flash has its boost target set and whether its hitting that target. I noticed the factory flash on this X6 is no where near its setpoint at higher RPM.


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Default 08-10-2016, 05:04 PM

I notice the boost is all over the place in both logs?


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Default 08-10-2016, 06:04 PM

I don't know if this is relevant, but I know S63TU guys will swap out the boost sensor for ones that read a different bar but Halim said it's not needed on the S63.

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1267910
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Default 08-11-2016, 04:33 PM

Bump for a hot topic. Do we need to start a numbered list of names to push this forward? I'm in for JB4 and BCM to start pushing the S63 beyond simple stage 2 tunes.


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I notice the boost is all over the place in both logs?
Yes the factory boost control is a bit sloppy, heavily under targeting too. The JB4 absolute target logs are looking better. Will post those when I rerun the 1/4 mile testing later.


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I don't know if this is relevant, but I know S63TU guys will swap out the boost sensor for ones that read a different bar but Halim said it's not needed on the S63.
Not relevant to JB4 stuff. Factory sensors read up to 36psi and are just fine.


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Making some progress on the E30 map. Need to get the I factor going in the PID to get boost on target. But the traps are up!

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Default 08-12-2016, 03:54 AM

Looking good , targets look a lot better. Are the a/f right in the logs ? How are you launching the x6, I know you are more concentrated on logs and mph, but when u get down to launching I've got a technique that nets me 1.74-1.76 stock


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Default 08-12-2016, 05:40 AM

Just tell me where and when to buy!

I've been looking for a tune for the past few months for my 2012 X6M, but none stand out as even decent when compared to my 135i N54 JB4 tune which is exceptional.

So as I said tell me where and when I can buy and it'll be ordered.
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Default 08-12-2016, 05:53 AM

Just keep up with the thread here, Terry is fine tune everything right now and doing some testing. This should be an awesome product for our trucks!!


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