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Default 12-24-2017, 09:31 AM

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Once released by MHD, I'll provide full tuning support on F series, as I already do for N54-N55 E series, as long as it's stacked with a jb4.
Can't wait to tune thoses babies.
I'll have a lot of JB4 customers to send your way for F series back end maps too... There are some pretty bad F series back end flash maps being used currently.


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Default 12-24-2017, 09:34 AM

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I'll have a lot of JB4 customers to send your way for F series back end maps too... There are some pretty bad F series back end flash maps being used currently.
If so, Why don't BMS Back-End Flash be Done by trebila ?


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Default 12-24-2017, 10:50 AM

Now that you’re all lining up to provide back-end maps via MHD, why didn’t anyone provide them using BM3? Or won’t.


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Default 12-24-2017, 11:07 AM

with pleasure Terry
I'll answer PMs next week, when I'll be back from holidays.


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Default 12-24-2017, 11:29 AM

I'll be in line for one of those as well! I have no idea the potential the BEF has for F series cars, but it sounds positive; right on.


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Default 12-24-2017, 12:49 PM

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I'll have a lot of JB4 customers to send your way for F series back end maps too... There are some pretty bad F series back end flash maps being used currently.
what software we will use for flash?
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Default 12-24-2017, 12:54 PM

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what software we will use for flash?
MHD


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Default 12-24-2017, 12:56 PM

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MHD
also for free maps?
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Default 12-24-2017, 01:03 PM

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also for free maps?
Yup,

You will have to buy the MHD Flasher License.. Only the flasher so you can use it to flash any map, then you can flash any tuners map with it..

So lets say you want to flash trebila's Map Flash,
you will have to buy the MHD Flasher (249$) + Trebila's Map(175 euros)...


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Default 12-27-2017, 06:22 PM

i may be in the MHD Beta testing program for F Series BMW. They just emailed me.....for my info
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Default 12-27-2017, 07:29 PM

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Now that youíre all lining up to provide back-end maps via MHD, why didnít anyone provide them using BM3? Or wonít.
I had a BEF developed for my PWG by Dzenan (bootmod3) and it works GREAT!


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Default 12-28-2017, 02:28 AM

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I had a BEF developed for my PWG by Dzenan (bootmod3) and it works GREAT!
I wanted to get BM3, but i had to unlock the DME, they still didn't start the OBD flash i think. But my plan now is MHD + trebila Backend flash


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Default 12-28-2017, 06:47 PM

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I wanted to get BM3, but i had to unlock the DME, they still didn't start the OBD flash i think. But my plan now is MHD + trebila Backend flash
Do you want to run WMI/PI or Ethanol?


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Default 12-29-2017, 01:05 AM

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Do you want to run WMI/PI or Ethanol?
No, my setup now is final to me. I wont be adding anything to it.
And i have no acces to ethanol. Only pump gas
Why are you asking ?


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Default 12-29-2017, 01:16 AM

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No, my setup now is final to me. I wont be adding anything to it.
And i have no acces to ethanol. Only pump gas
Why are you asking ?
If you plan to go further you will need to do something to improve the fuel system. He was asking what your plan was.


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Default 12-29-2017, 01:20 AM

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If you plan to go further you will need to do something to improve the fuel system. He was asking what your plan was.
Oh okay, i dont plan to add any thing soon.

I will only make trebila custom flash. And will leave the car that way.


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Default 12-29-2017, 02:25 AM

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Oh okay, i dont plan to add any thing soon.

I will only make trebila custom flash. And will leave the car that way.
If you only want to run pump-gas then retire/sell your JB4. In this case running flash is the only right solution


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Default 12-29-2017, 02:36 AM

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If you only want to run pump-gas then retire/sell your JB4. In this case running flash is the only right solution
Even if its the right way to go and even if the OTS is better than the Back-end,
i wont leave the JB4 its the best thing IMO , i like the modifications i can do and the safety features that JB4 has, and every thing it dose, and To me i know that terry and BMS only read JB4 logs to evaluate and i don't want to loose his evaluations to my build, terry is the best in this area
Just my 2 cent's


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Default 12-29-2017, 08:18 AM

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Even if its the right way to go and even if the OTS is better than the Back-end,
i wont leave the JB4 its the best thing IMO , i like the modifications i can do and the safety features that JB4 has, and every thing it dose, and To me i know that terry and BMS only read JB4 logs to evaluate and i don't want to loose his evaluations to my build, terry is the best in this area
Just my 2 cent's
JB4 does not add any safety when you only run pump gas - dont kid yourself. I like the JB4 for its WMI integration and because it keeps me busy with things to do to my car haha It would be gone in 3 sec if I only ran pump.


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Default 12-31-2017, 07:24 AM

Have Any one joined the MHD Beta, and flashed the stage 0 ??

I want to know the time it takes for the initial installation, if its short then we wont need a battrey charger but if its long then will definitley need one..


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Default 12-31-2017, 09:32 AM

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Have Any one joined the MHD Beta, and flashed the stage 0 ??

I want to know the time it takes for the initial installation, if its short then we wont need a battrey charger but if its long then will definitley need one..
The first Flash needs 26 minutes. The other only 2-3 min.

For the first Flash, it will be good to have a charger or a another car.
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Default 12-31-2017, 09:43 AM

I think i will use another car that is engine running and connect it to mine while flashing.

Did you do the flash ? Sure of the 26 mins ? What car do you have ?


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Default 12-31-2017, 10:12 AM

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JB4 does not add any safety when you only run pump gas - dont kid yourself. I like the JB4 for its WMI integration and because it keeps me busy with things to do to my car haha It would be gone in 3 sec if I only ran pump.
You don't think over the boost safety, lean run safety, low fuel pressure safety, are important on lower grade fuels? The lower grade the fuel the more important they become! We've got some new F series enhanced safety systems rolling out too soon. And when you have extra safety systems in place watching over the car 24/7 you can get more creative with the tuning knowing you have a larger safety net should the need arise. Don't worry we've got no shortages of ideas for how we can improve on all flash only situations for customers who are interested to also run a JB4. The more we can do on the flash side the more that opens up what we can do with the JB4 in the mix.

Anyway we have the MHD F series BETA flashing tools. Uses normal tuner pro, I love it. We'll work on the S55 first as they seem the most complex. I'm shocked by how many F series flashing companies and packages are out right now, but I predict within a few months of its release, MHD has completely taken over the F series flash market.


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Default 12-31-2017, 04:59 PM

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You don't think over the boost safety, lean run safety, low fuel pressure safety, are important on lower grade fuels? The lower grade the fuel the more important they become! We've got some new F series enhanced safety systems rolling out too soon. And when you have extra safety systems in place watching over the car 24/7 you can get more creative with the tuning knowing you have a larger safety net should the need arise. Don't worry we've got no shortages of ideas for how we can improve on all flash only situations for customers who are interested to also run a JB4. The more we can do on the flash side the more that opens up what we can do with the JB4 in the mix.

Anyway we have the MHD F series BETA flashing tools. Uses normal tuner pro, I love it. We'll work on the S55 first as they seem the most complex. I'm shocked by how many F series flashing companies and packages are out right now, but I predict within a few months of its release, MHD has completely taken over the F series flash market.
I think they are very important, but I cannot imagine that the stock DME does not have those protections mechanisms too. Getting a flash tune all of these features should still be active.


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Default 12-31-2017, 05:28 PM

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I think they are very important, but I cannot imagine that the stock DME does not have those protections mechanisms too. Getting a flash tune all of these features should still be active.
You'd think so but you'll be surprised. The DME will happily run full boost at 17:1 AFR for an entire pull without intervention, for example. There is limited over boost safety, which most flash tuners disable as the first thing they do. You'll see. Give it some time and we'll make our case with logs, dynos, and customer feedback.


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