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Default 09-11-2017, 07:14 AM

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Oh man im so confused

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43674 see post 2 from Terry


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Thanks bro. Very good find.


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Default 09-11-2017, 08:02 AM

I thought fuel bias is set to 50 for hybrids even without PI.

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33200


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Default 09-11-2017, 08:02 AM

Without a PI controller installed the settings for Fuel Enrichment don't matter.


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Default 09-15-2017, 05:28 PM

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Default settings in the first post... Disable RPM FF under FutureUseD, and the duty bias profile, are particularly important.

Then log whatever boost level or map you want to log. Normally map7 is a good starting point on E85.
this is what i was looking for just a bit of reading
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Hey Terry,
Picking up my car today, new rod bearing, pure stage 1 turbos, relocation inlets, and outlets, new valve cover. I have the PUMP BEF and a JB4 and FBO. I will only be running pump gas for now.
Would these be good settings for Map 6?
RPM/BOOST/DUTY
1500/14.1/50
2000/15.0/50
2500/16.0/50
3000/17.0/50
3500/19.0/50
4000/19.0/52
4500/19.0/54
5000/19.0/56
5500/19.0/58
6000/19.0/60
6500/19.0/62
7000/18.0/64

Much appreciated, obviously ill need to log and evaluate but I just wanted a good starting point
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Default 09-21-2017, 06:29 AM

I am very new to N54 tuning. So here's my situation. I recently had my turbos upgraded to the TurboLab upgraded hybrid turbos. They are slightly bigger than stock. I know I will need a backend flash to run them at full potential. TurboLabs told me these turbos are good for up to 550hp. What flash do I need to run for these specific turbos and what settings would be best within the JB4.

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Default 09-21-2017, 06:32 AM

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I am very new to N54 tuning. So here's my situation. I recently had my turbos upgraded to the TurboLab upgraded hybrid turbos. They are slightly bigger than stock. I know I will need a backend flash to run them at full potential. TurboLabs told me these turbos are good for up to 550hp. What flash do I need to run for these specific turbos and what settings would be best within the JB4.

My mods are:
JB4 G5 ISO
BMS DCI
BMS Charge Pipe with HKS BOV
******* **'s
Full Magnaflow Exhaust
TurboLab Upgraded Hybrid Turbos
Depends what fuel you are using. But you'll probably need a low pressure fuel pump upgrade also
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Default 09-21-2017, 01:25 PM

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Hey Terry,
Picking up my car today, new rod bearing, pure stage 1 turbos, relocation inlets, and outlets, new valve cover. I have the PUMP BEF and a JB4 and FBO. I will only be running pump gas for now.
Would these be good settings for Map 6?
RPM/BOOST/DUTY
1500/14.1/50
2000/15.0/50
2500/16.0/50
3000/17.0/50
3500/19.0/50
4000/19.0/52
4500/19.0/54
5000/19.0/56
5500/19.0/58
6000/19.0/60
6500/19.0/62
7000/18.0/64

Much appreciated, obviously ill need to log and evaluate but I just wanted a good starting point
I wouldn't set boost that high until you evaluate a log since you are only using pump gas and DB's will be set to 50 also until you log to see where you need to raise or lower.


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Default Fuel - 09-21-2017, 01:54 PM

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Depends what fuel you are using. But you'll probably need a low pressure fuel pump upgrade also
I'm running 93 octane. I need to upgrade my lpfp also?
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Default 09-21-2017, 04:05 PM

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I'm running 93 octane. I need to upgrade my lpfp also?
You'll just run the pump BEF and I would hold off on the LPFP and see where it's at after you log.


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Default 09-21-2017, 08:21 PM

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I wouldn't set boost that high until you evaluate a log since you are only using pump gas and DB's will be set to 50 also until you log to see where you need to raise or lower.
Well before the new turbos and inlets I was hitting 17s mid range all the time. Maybe I'll start with 17 to red line than slowly raise
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Well before the new turbos and inlets I was hitting 17s mid range all the time. Maybe I'll start with 17 to red line than slowly raise
Yeah but were you logging before to evaluate to make sure everything was within safe parameters?


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Default 09-22-2017, 04:06 AM

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Yeah but were you logging before to evaluate to make sure everything was within safe parameters?
yes, my logs were pretty much perfect except for tired turbos, and my LPFP was on its way out but that is fixed now. I am letting the rod bearing settle in though for the first 800 miles. Not really pushing it over 3.5
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Default 09-23-2017, 01:58 AM

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You'll just run the pump BEF and I would hold off on the LPFP and see where it's at after you log.
Ok. Is there a specific JB4 BEF that is made specifically for hybrid turbos? If so, what BEF should I download and flash. I just want to make sure I don't blow my motor with an incorrect map.
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Default 09-23-2017, 08:02 AM

Hey guy my car just got done with the upgrades and its running like crap. My car has jb4, vargas stage 2+ turbos, mmp relocation inlets, vtto outlet, 7in vrsf hd intercooler, stage 2 bucket less fuel pump, charge pipe with bov, 3.5tmap sensor. what setting do i have to change in my jb4 and i know i need to put a back end flash. i have read a lot of stuff but still confused. need some major help here. thanks guys
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Default 09-23-2017, 12:16 PM

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Ok. Is there a specific JB4 BEF that is made specifically for hybrid turbos? If so, what BEF should I download and flash. I just want to make sure I don't blow my motor with an incorrect map.
Just run the regular pump BEF, it appears there is no hybrid pump BEF as of now.

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Hey guy my car just got done with the upgrades and its running like crap. My car has jb4, vargas stage 2+ turbos, mmp relocation inlets, vtto outlet, 7in vrsf hd intercooler, stage 2 bucket less fuel pump, charge pipe with bov, 3.5tmap sensor. what setting do i have to change in my jb4 and i know i need to put a back end flash. i have read a lot of stuff but still confused. need some major help here. thanks guys
Best to do a couple of logs and also take pictures of your interface setup and post in the support section.


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Default 09-24-2017, 02:25 AM

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Just run the regular pump BEF, it appears there is no hybrid pump BEF as of now.



Best to do a couple of logs and also take pictures of your interface setup and post in the support section.
Alright. So, I should flash the pump BEF. Then what map do I put my car on via the JB4?

Also, I was hoping I could have a local tuner create a custom tune for me to use alongside the JB4, but all the shops near me say that they don't work on cars with JB4 and that I need a Cobb accessport to get a tune? I just want my car to run the best it possibly can and take advantage of my mods. What is the best way to do this?
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Default jb4 and backend flash set up - 09-25-2017, 11:46 AM

Hey Guys i have a 07 with Jb4/******* ***/ charge pipe and bov/ relocation inlets/ outlet/ 7in fmic/ stage 2 bucket less fuel pump/ vtto stage 2+ turbos/ occ/ 3.5tmap/ rb pcv.

What should i set my jb4 setting to and what backend flash should i use i am only using pump gas rn
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Alright. So, I should flash the pump BEF. Then what map do I put my car on via the JB4?

Also, I was hoping I could have a local tuner create a custom tune for me to use alongside the JB4, but all the shops near me say that they don't work on cars with JB4 and that I need a Cobb accessport to get a tune? I just want my car to run the best it possibly can and take advantage of my mods. What is the best way to do this?
I would contact David (Trebila on this site), he tunes with the JB4 installed which most tuners won't. He'll get you set up with the settings you need and will send you a flash to get you started and will work with you till everything is dialed in. I worked with him a while back and about to get another tune once I get my PI installed.

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Hey Guys i have a 07 with Jb4/******* ***/ charge pipe and bov/ relocation inlets/ outlet/ 7in fmic/ stage 2 bucket less fuel pump/ vtto stage 2+ turbos/ occ/ 3.5tmap/ rb pcv.

What should i set my jb4 setting to and what backend flash should i use i am only using pump gas rn
Go to this thread: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10605 and scroll down to post #3. Those are the default settings on the interface. Just run the pump BEF.


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Default 09-27-2017, 04:46 PM

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Hey Guys i have a 07 with Jb4/******* ***/ charge pipe and bov/ relocation inlets/ outlet/ 7in fmic/ stage 2 bucket less fuel pump/ vtto stage 2+ turbos/ occ/ 3.5tmap/ rb pcv.

What should i set my jb4 setting to and what backend flash should i use i am only using pump gas rn
Starting settings are in the first two posts. The back end flash map loaded depends on the fuel being used.


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Default 09-30-2017, 11:28 AM

im currently running stage 1 turbos, and i think if i remember correctly the settings for standard turbos, will i benefit from changing them to the settings on page 1?

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Default 09-30-2017, 11:29 AM

You'd want to evaluate your logs, but the settings are design to get boost on target for larger turbos out of the box. If your boost is already well controlled as is then likely no reason to change anything.


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Default 09-30-2017, 11:33 AM

il grab some logs tomorrow and send you them? which maps are best for logging? hows best to log to ensure good results?
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Hi everyone. New here. Just switched from Cobb.

Question: Does anyone have experience with MMP Stage 3 Hybrids?

Current mods:

- MMP Stage 3 Hybrid turbos (fully optioned) + MMP 2" inlets/outlets (heat wrapped)
- BMS OCC (boost side)
- RB external PCV / Mishimoto OCC (vacuum side)
- plugged intake manifold ports
- Walbro 450 stage 2 LPFP
- ER sport oil cooler (custom lines)
- Kohlefaser Luft-Technik carbon fibre Twin Intake
- AMS intercooler
- ER chargepipe + Forge DVs
- N20 TMAP 3.5 Bar
- NGK 9552 plugs
- CPE Cast D Ps (heat wrapped) + high flow cats
- Vibrant 7525 secondary race cats
- BMW PE
- BMW 550/650 clutch
- BMS modified clutch delay valve
- brass clutch fork pivot pin
- BMS cowl filters
- Turner 12.5 mm spacers

Will be dyno tuning this week.

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