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Hey Terry,

What if we used this as direct port injection for water/meth instead of for fueling? Something like this:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=947629

Would it be a good idea/upgrade from the chargepipe/meth bung setup? It should ensure that all cylinders are recieving an equal amount of the water/meth.
At this time if using the PI we suggest removing any meth kit & capping the bungs.


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Default 01-20-2015, 01:45 PM

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Excellent question !

Any idea please

The car has the following steps, jb4 , full bolt ons, Rb, forged internals and vac cylinder head stage 1 and my trouble avg ign retard (9.1)
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Default 01-20-2015, 01:48 PM

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Excellent question !

Any idea please

The car has the following steps, jb4 , full bolt ons, Rb, forged internals and vac cylinder head stage 1 and my trouble avg ign retard (9.1)
. Thanks in advance.
The benefit is not having to mix fuel, not running meth, cooler combustion, and perhaps more knock resistance. The built motor part won't matter here.


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Are you sure you understood the question ? I can't see any insisting phrase for my built engine ? Just wanted to learn if it is a good way for better fueling!


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Default 01-20-2015, 02:03 PM

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Are you sure you understood the question ? I can't see any insisting phrase for my built engine ? Just wanted to learn if it is a good way for better fueling!
I'm sorry, your English is broken and not in complete sentences (with no direct question posed), so we have to guess at what you're asking.


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my English is better than your Turkish ,if you look in a good intention , saying get out of here instead, you'll see language doesn't make a sense that much. Thanks for your respect!


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my English is better than your Turkish ,if you look in a good intention , saying get out of here instead, you'll see language doesn't make a sense that much. Thanks for your respect!
^ Q.E.D.

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^ Q.E.D.

We are just trying to be helpful. You are hard to understand.
Ok I am hard to understand. Thank you.


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Default 01-20-2015, 03:14 PM

Terry, doesnt the aic4 run off two maps? tach and map? could it run off tach alone? and at what boost would you prefer it to go to since 26 isnt enough?


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Default 01-20-2015, 03:32 PM

It has one map for each MOSFET but as implemented we just copy map 1 over to map 2. Only one map is needed for this application as we run the same fueling in bank 1 as we do in bank 2.

In a perfect world the AIC4H would take in a 0-5v input and let you map on that. 4.5v on the 3.5 bar sensor goes up to 36psi.


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Default 01-20-2015, 03:55 PM

ok thanx terry. ill talk to mark at split second and see if he can customize the aic6 to your preffered specs. i had one made for my xmas gift but someone stole it from my door after it was delivered.


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Default 01-20-2015, 04:33 PM

Terry, which AIC4H do we need. The AIC1-G4H or AIC1-A4H?


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Default 01-21-2015, 11:08 AM


very interested. When would the complete kit available? DIY?


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Default 01-21-2015, 11:41 AM

Terry/Steve are you planning on offering an upgraded fuel line and or a return to support the additional flow?
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Default 01-21-2015, 11:46 AM

Terry, I can understand that we would no longer need the meth. But with running the PI would we be able to start pushing higher whp on pump fuel alone? Or would you suggest still running a ethanol mix? I would love to achieve similar numbers on straight pump fuel.


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Terry, I can understand that we would no longer need the meth. But with running the PI would we be able to start pushing higher whp on pump fuel alone? Or would you suggest still running a ethanol mix? I would love to achieve similar numbers on straight pump fuel.
Not going to happen on pump gas unless you do 8:1 compression pistons, etc. If you can't use E85 there is no reason to add PI IMHO unless your system is maxing out on race gas.


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ok thanx terry. ill talk to mark at split second and see if he can customize the aic6 to your preffered specs. i had one made for my xmas gift but someone stole it from my door after it was delivered.
That's the thing. I don't want to waste their or my time with it as we won't be using or suggesting it long term. The off the shelf one works. Use that until something better is available. Then sell it down the road.


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Default 01-21-2015, 02:21 PM

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That's the thing. I don't want to waste their or my time with it as we won't be using or suggesting it long term. The off the shelf one works. Use that until something better is available. Then sell it down the road.
Hi terry
I'm waiting for this kit, when ready,I want to buy...

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Default 01-21-2015, 09:17 PM

I've got the rails & injectors but making the harnesses is a pita. I'll make a few myself but then I'll need to send the supplies over to our harness manufacturer which will probably take a few weeks.


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Ohhh, I think I'm missing some wires LOL.
I think so too. I was like WTF?



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Injectors are in.
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Can't wait. I just used the last of my meth drum this weekend and do not plan on buying another.


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Default 01-26-2015, 01:22 PM

Can I run this kit without a jb4?
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Sure but the free maps included are tuned for use with a JB4. So you'd have to develop and tweak your own maps.


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