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Default 09-16-2013, 06:24 PM

Is this update available yet? I know once I loaded the e85 map through open source last week the car felt just AMAZING, then I blew the front turbo lol.


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What was the additive? Pure meth? Single nozzle? Size?


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Default 09-16-2013, 08:24 PM

Reading this thread has me on the verge of going "add to cart" and going full bolt on.

Too many other bills... must resist...


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Default 09-17-2013, 08:23 AM

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Is this update available yet? I know once I loaded the e85 map through open source last week the car felt just AMAZING, then I blew the front turbo lol.
No we've not posted these maps as I'm not 100% confident they are safe in the real world yet. But, I've had an MT customer put down ~470rw using map 7 and the new E85 flash. So you can get close with the published stuff.


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Default 09-17-2013, 10:34 AM

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Just wrapped up some dyno testing on our E92 MT. Mods include the JB4, BB flash, BMS **, BMS DCI, CPE BOV, CPE IC, and BMS OCC. Factory catback system & midcats. $100 inline fuel pump. Spec clutch w/ steel flywheel.
Great work putting up those numbers!
Any comments on the Spec Clutch??
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Default 09-17-2013, 10:36 AM

Some rattle at low idle but works great. I'm a fan.


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What stage?
Have you been to the dragstrip yet?
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Default 09-17-2013, 01:06 PM

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No we've not posted these maps as I'm not 100% confident they are safe in the real world yet. But, I've had an MT customer put down ~470rw using map 7 and the new E85 flash. So you can get close with the published stuff.
These are dynojet numbers right? Not mustang dyno numbers...

How do you think this new e85 map will do with RB's????


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For RBs I'd suggest the RACE maps which will do anywhere from 500-530rw depending on the boost curve used. The E85 maps are too lean and too highly advanced for RB turbos.


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For RBs I'd suggest the RACE maps which will do anywhere from 500-530rw depending on the boost curve used. The E85 maps are too lean and too highly advanced for RB turbos.
What happens with the too high advance with upgraded turbos?
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This is the current stock turbo dyno record. Until someone does more than 481whp on a dynojet stock turbo it will stand...


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Default 10-29-2014, 02:29 PM

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This is the current stock turbo dyno record. Until someone does more than 481whp on a dynojet stock turbo it will stand...
how many miles were on these turbos at the date of this dyno run?

Also, how long were they run for?

I want to get an idea of how robust these turbos are after 50k+ at 17psi etc

I know the same frame turbos are used on older WRXs which are generally pretty reliable and are often tuned to run much higher boost than what we're running.
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Default 10-29-2014, 04:29 PM

The factory turbos are very durable at higher boost levels. But at these power levels they are blowing a lot of hot air and operating under 2-3x back pressure and its the pistons you really need to worry about. There have been several blown motors with guys trying to push factory turbos too far. Much more so than large turbo blown motors from what I've seen. Which should tell you something.


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Default 10-29-2014, 04:51 PM

How much does running stock cats effect operating temps of turbos?

@ high boost levels ~ 17psi
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Hey Terry what E85 flash is this you speak of ?
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Hey Terry what E85 flash is this you speak of ?
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20563

Same E85 flash that has been out there for awhile. Runs a few degrees more timing compared to the RACE flash.


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Same E85 flash that has been out there for awhile. Runs a few degrees more timing compared to the RACE flash.
Ohh old thread lol that's the flash I run
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Hey Terry this record still stands right ? If so we got a suprise for you on a 6AT I will leave Ken to post it. To tired right now, need to go check my blood preasure


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Hey terry can I get your email?? I want to talk to you about tuning. I've been trying to track you down an send you a pm on bimmerpost and bimmerboost but the pm option is not available for you.
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Thread revival to ask, which Spec clutch was used on this vehicle?


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I wish we had put inlets on this car as it was...

Clutch was some spec single disk. I forget which one. Steel flywheel.


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I wish we had put inlets on this car as it was...

Clutch was some spec single disk. I forget which one. Steel flywheel.
Inlets, drooool. I only ask because I will be making
Similar power and an questioning my decision on purchasing the 2+ and thinking if it'll be enough lol.


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Hey guys,

Just wrapped up some dyno testing on our E92 MT. Mods include the JB4, BB flash, BMS **, BMS DCI, CPE BOV, CPE IC, and BMS OCC. Factory catback system & midcats. $100 inline fuel pump. Spec clutch w/ steel flywheel.

Fuel for today was E85 mixed with 91 octane. Around E60. Although there is probably a few more HP in there with E70-E80. Dyno room temps were in the low 90s. Fans were pretty good.

The only changes since last time around (461rw) are on the tuning end. More advance, leaner air/fuel ratios, a slightly different VANOS curve, and some boost curve changes when the meth is flowing.

The E85 only runs were on map 7. You'll notice the timing curve was consistently a bit aggressive around 6000rpm. On the two best E85 runs the dyno tach pickup skipped a beat so be sure to look at the torque curve and not just the peak numbers.

With meth I decided to crank the boost up as much as I could. I also left the more aggressive timing curve in place. Basically, I was going for a max effort setup. And the car delivered with 481rw. On the advance to my surprise I found it was still aggressive up top even with meth flowing. This curve is going to need E70 up top + meth I suspect. I'll back it down up there for now.

Anyway, very happy to have the stock turbo dynojet record back in our corner.
how many psi?
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