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Nice! What area? Victoria, Vancouver, kelowna?

What 94 do you use? I think you guys have Chevron 94 there, but just a quick warning I heard (not sure it its legit, just alot of forum talk about it) alot of subaru guys say Canadian chevron 94 is only equivalent to US 91. That's why I prefer Husky 94 which is consistant 94AKI all year round, plus it's actually legit 94 AKI.


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Default 07-15-2017, 11:39 PM

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Nice! What area? Victoria, Vancouver, kelowna?

What 94 do you use? I think you guys have Chevron 94 there, but just a quick warning I heard (not sure it its legit, just alot of forum talk about it) alot of subaru guys say Canadian chevron 94 is only equivalent to US 91. That's why I prefer Husky 94 which is consistant 94AKI all year round, plus it's actually legit 94 AKI.
We have a Husky and a Chevron in the 'hood, I use either.

I live in a little ski town up Sea To Sky, but travel a fair bit to Vancouver and Victoria fairly regularly.


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We have a Husky and a Chevron in the 'hood, I use either.

I live in a little ski town up Sea To Sky, but travel a fair bit to Vancouver and Victoria fairly regularly.
Nice!
Good to see another Canadian on here eh?
Anyways IMO I recommend Husky 94 because I think it's more consistent, but to be fair just try both on your car and log it and use which one performs best. (not sure if stage 1 can log, kind of confusing because I think JB1 on the volkswagens could log).


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Thanks, happy to hear it. The whole goal with this thing was simple to install easy power gains at a reasonable price.
Just installed mine. Very easy installation as advertised. I only drove it around the block so I haven't had a real opportunity to experience the gains.
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Default 07-16-2017, 06:34 PM

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Nice!
Good to see another Canadian on here eh?
Anyways IMO I recommend Husky 94 because I think it's more consistent, but to be fair just try both on your car and log it and use which one performs best. (not sure if stage 1 can log, kind of confusing because I think JB1 on the volkswagens could log).
I'm pretty sure Terry said no logging available, just adjustments to template.

I've got my BlueDriver OBD2 coming in on Monday but yet to find out what it will grab from my car's dataport. I'll keep you posted.

Always good to have another Canucker in da hizzy

Gas. Last couple tanks have been Chevron 94, before that, PetroCan 91 (I think??) and I had some issues with the car doping out on me under heavy throttle and load. Husky has 93 I think, will fill up there next time and see how it feels.

I recall reading somewhere that fuels throughout Canada are basically all from the same depots, but that different detergents and the like are what give each "brand" their distinguished flavour. I have no idea if this is true, but centralized supply lines seem to make the most fiscal sense, so I'm going on the notion there may be some truth to this.

Detergents don't change the rated and stated octane of the fuel; so what's stated as 94 by law should be 94 and what's stated as 91 should be 91 etc. If it says "May Contain Up To 10% Ethanol", well, by law it may contain up to 10% ethanol. If it states NO ethanol, by law it should have NO ethanol.

"By Law" of course is where the grey areas of interpretation exist, ahem...


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I'm pretty sure Terry said no logging available, just adjustments to template.

I've got my BlueDriver OBD2 coming in on Monday but yet to find out what it will grab from my car's dataport. I'll keep you posted.

Always good to have another Canucker in da hizzy

Gas. Last couple tanks have been Chevron 94, before that, PetroCan 91 (I think??) and I had some issues with the car doping out on me under heavy throttle and load. Husky has 93 I think, will fill up there next time and see how it feels.

I recall reading somewhere that fuels throughout Canada are basically all from the same depots, but that different detergents and the like are what give each "brand" their distinguished flavour. I have no idea if this is true, but centralized supply lines seem to make the most fiscal sense, so I'm going on the notion there may be some truth to this.

Detergents don't change the rated and stated octane of the fuel; so what's stated as 94 by law should be 94 and what's stated as 91 should be 91 etc. If it says "May Contain Up To 10% Ethanol", well, by law it may contain up to 10% ethanol. If it states NO ethanol, by law it should have NO ethanol.

"By Law" of course is where the grey areas of interpretation exist, ahem...
Hey,
Actually I've found from dyno testing and logging that winter blend fuels or additives lower octane rating. So in the summer its ok and not causing the car to pull timing, but in the winter the car pulls timing on the same octane fuel from the pump. So IMO Husky has the most consistent 94 octane fuel.

The fuels with ethanol seem to behave as higher octanes than those w/o it imo.


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Default 07-17-2017, 04:37 AM

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If you do not want to change it from 3psi then no changes are needed, obviously.
Terry, is there an easy way to determine if the stage one device ever stops working? Obviously other than the car feeling sluggish? Will we see an error light come on in the car?
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If something goes wrong with it you'll get a CEL in dash.


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Default 07-17-2017, 02:42 PM

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If something goes wrong with it you'll get a CEL in dash.
My goodness, you ask a question - you get a specific and concise response immediately.

Talk about a confidence building relationship!! Thanks Terry - straight up, honest, definitely well engineered product and service. Keep it up - hands down best upgrade out there...and well priced to boot (had to mention this twice as it really is deserving of mention!!)

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My goodness, you ask a question - you get a specific and concise response immediately.

Talk about a confidence building relationship!! Thanks Terry - straight up, honest, definitely well engineered product and service. Keep it up - hands down best upgrade out there...and well priced to boot (had to mention this twice as it really is deserving of mention!!)

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Sounds like a loose plug to me, or maybe one of the pins not making contact. Check those and if you need additional help email us.
Thanks Terry, i'm emailing , I dont want to spam your form with questions on my install lol
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Thank you for prompt delivery Burger Tuning!

Day 1 on stage 1 default settings driving my red sport q60. 20 roll second gear slight delay then turbos kick in harder than ever while rear tires fight for traction (when they previously wouldn't)! Great product even better price! 6-7 weeks after ordering and im still waiting on a down pipe from fast intentions. I ordered my piggyback 4 days ago and it arrived to my doorstep and installed in less than 5 minutes.

Car is otherwise stock. ran today with 11 gallons of 93 plus 4 of e85 for the first time, and i will continue this mix. i didn't get the data cable since the red sport turbos are close to being maxxed out already, default settings have me happy. if i had a silver sport, data cable would be a must and id be running at least +5 lbs and be close to entering red sport territory.

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...i didn't get the data cable since the red sport turbos are close to being maxxed out already, default settings have me happy. if i had a silver sport, data cable would be a must and id be running at least +5 lbs and be close to entering red sport territory.
Agreed - the stock 3PSI boost is more than adequate for any RS400 drivers out there. I got the cable more for future FW upgrades - if any - and a SLIGHT possibility of cracking 4PSI down the road - but is it necessary, that additional 1PSI??

No.

Lastly - just wanted to chime in - someone (I believe it was here??) was asking about the BlueDriver OBD2 scanner. I got mine and installed it - had a couple minor hiccups with it finally handshaking with my car's data output, but it started working fine. That said - and in speaking back and forth with Lemur, the developers, the scanner isn't capable *yet* of tracking MAF. But I will be taking my car out for a run today and see if it logs some of the more in-depth parameters such as boost, air/fuel, etc.

If it doesn't now, it will down the road as the newer cars out there have their datasets and PIDs handshake with the OBD2 module.

Bit miffed, as MAF was the No.1 reason I bought it (trying to get a handle on what has now become the historical "dreaded WOT jerk/tranny shift/stammer" thing... Along with BOOST. But perhaps BOOST will be measurable/log-able today - soon to find out.

FW updates happen regularly so I'm not too worried. Sorta...

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Default 07-18-2017, 01:06 PM

Main thing you'd want to look at is AFR (via factory widebands) and timing advance. Maybe throttle position to a lower degree.


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Main thing you'd want to look at is AFR (via factory widebands) and timing advance. Maybe throttle position to a lower degree.
Just went for a 2 hour joy ride (who does nowadays anyway?!?) and mucked around with the parameters of the OBD2 BlueDriver - MAF is 100% there and operational, was just under a different title.

"Boost" is not registering, but it could be I need to dig deeper again on my next joy ride.

I'll keep this AFR (Air Fuel Ratio??), timing advance and throttle in mind for my next log.

KILLER PERFORMANCE NO ISSUES TO DATE!!!! Terry...this is awesome :D


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Just joined and just ordered the Stage 1 for my Q50 SS AWD. I'm in the toronto area and cant wait to get this thing installed!!
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Just joined and just ordered the Stage 1 for my Q50 SS AWD. I'm in the toronto area and cant wait to get this thing installed!!
Welcome! And hey fellow Canadian!
Heard you lucky Toronto guys have e85 at the pump, not sure if it's true but that'd be so sweet!


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Welcome! And hey fellow Canadian!
Heard you lucky Toronto guys have e85 at the pump, not sure if it's true but that'd be so sweet!
Thanks!! I have a Petrol Canada near me with the Ultra 94 - that's all I usually use.

I need more info on e85... I've read from Infiniti that these cars are not compatible yet people are using it??
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Thanks!! I have a Petrol Canada near me with the Ultra 94 - that's all I usually use.

I need more info on e85... I've read from Infiniti that these cars are not compatible yet people are using it??
Stick with the stock 3psi that comes resident on the Stage1 and you'll be fine with 93/94 octane - zero issues.

Except you may have a hard time removing the grin on yer face


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Stick with the stock 3psi that comes resident on the Stage1 and you'll be fine with 93/94 octane - zero issues.

Except you may have a hard time removing the grin on yer face
I have the 300HP SS not an RS.. I was going to 5psi over right from the get go. I'll even test 6psi...
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As a follow up to my Stage 1 unit testing with straight Texan 93 octane pump gas - I can report that at +6psi boost my Silver Sport is humming w/o any issues whatsoever. Before the Stage 1 install Monday I could stand on the accelerator and the rear end, with the summer Dunlop 20" factory tires, would not break loose (traction control still enabled.) With the Stage 1 and +6psi boost, the rear tires are starting to ever so slightly squeal with the same pedal treatment from the line.

Canucker - Really nice photos and ideas - my next trip under the hood will be to implement your install. Thanks!
Thanks for these updates... I have the same car as you (AWD though) and will go straight to +5 when I get it.
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Here you go! Not much difference really considering what you save. I didn't rev the red sport out as high most runs but you get the idea.
Can someone hopefully explain this??

Why is the RedSport constantly seeing higher torque in the lower RPM's vs the SilverSport (stock or Stage 1)?

I notice all the RS dynos have a huge TQ increase at about 2500 rpm's and stays flat vs the SS seems to build up slower and peeks later.

Does this difference disappear if doing an ECU (ECUTEK) tune? Personally I think it may be safer with the gradual curve?
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Default 07-20-2017, 01:23 PM

I don't have access to the Infiniti parts books, but I'd be willing to bet the difference is the cams and/or cam timing.


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Thanks!! I have a Petrol Canada near me with the Ultra 94 - that's all I usually use.

I need more info on e85... I've read from Infiniti that these cars are not compatible yet people are using it??
Ahh I see.
I personally use husky 94 on my m2.
But do you have any e85 stations nearby?


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