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Hmm weird, only post #2 and forward were showing up for me earlier but things look normal. Maybe I am just a derp. Thanks sir.
lol no worries. Post some logs once its loaded we can verify its working as it should be.


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Default 04-10-2018, 06:08 PM

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lol no worries. Post some logs once its loaded we can verify its working as it should be.
@Terry,

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Default Loaded UP! - 04-11-2018, 08:57 AM

Just flashed with MHD and loaded the BMS BEF PWG1_RACE_1c. Just went for a quick test run and really liking it so far. Will try to get in some logging runs later and will post results, may try to get in a top speed run this weekend with limiter deleted.


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Default S55 RACE rev11c log - 04-11-2018, 05:42 PM

@Terry,

Recently updated MHD to v0.992, flashed S55 RACE rev11c and the updated MHD options.

Made a few runs today, then got a log for you to review (haven't seen any logs with the new BEF version).
Log obtained on 93 pump fuel, could only manage a single gear pull this time. I'll try to get a multi-gear log and share it soon.

Overall, response feels smoother - the sudden mid throttle/RPM surge that I had noticed a few times with the previous BEF revisions isn't as harsh. There's still occasional sudden rushes of power that totally ruin traction if not closely manipulating pedal input, but it isn't as severe.

Thanks again and keep up the great work!
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Default 04-11-2018, 09:40 PM

Car is too fun to drive, so couldnít wait until tomorrow.

Got a couple more runs, including one starting in 3rd and pulling through 5th that had me tempted to test the new VMAX delete.


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Default 04-12-2018, 07:56 AM

I'm trying to adjust map 6 for E85 bef using 100% E85. I've adjusted PI fuel bias in a way that it won't bottom at higher gears.

Trims are really low when doing pulls that start at 3rd gear or higher, and hpfp stays above 10.

But every time I try to floor it on 1st or 2nd gear hpfp takes a dive and/or trims get stuck to 25 after gear change.

Is it possible to adjust PI mapping for lower gears to avoid that?
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Default 04-12-2018, 08:48 AM

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Car is too fun to drive, so couldnít wait until tomorrow.

Got a couple more runs, including one starting in 3rd and pulling through 5th that had me tempted to test the new VMAX delete.
Looks good. What do you think of map5 vs. say map2 behind the wheel?
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Default 04-12-2018, 08:50 AM

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I'm trying to adjust map 6 for E85 bef using 100% E85. I've adjusted PI fuel bias in a way that it won't bottom at higher gears.
You need to crank up port injection volume until fuel pressure isn't crashing. Then if fuel trims are bottoming out resolve that in the BEF fuel trim settings.


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Default 04-12-2018, 08:55 AM

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You need to crank up port injection volume until fuel pressure isn't crashing. Then if fuel trims are bottoming out resolve that in the BEF fuel trim settings.
Thank you for quick reply. BEF fuel trim settings? Completely new to me...


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Default 04-12-2018, 08:57 AM

Fix the fuel pressure with PI volume and I can help you fix the fuel trims after.


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Default 04-12-2018, 11:10 PM

listed BEFs probably were never tested in real world. Otherwise author of them would know that e.g. JB4_F_PWG3_RACE_3B.bin speed limitation is set to 0km/h. How it looks? Car starts jerking just after you start to move
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Default 04-12-2018, 11:46 PM

will u do any updates for the BEF?

the pump flash works well on my EWG n55, but the RACE_7C i can't load it i see Drivetrain while flashing.
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Default 04-13-2018, 06:41 AM

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Looks good. What do you think of map5 vs. say map2 behind the wheel?
Map 5 has worked great for managing the low-end torque, so haven't even thought to try map 2 with the last couple BEF versions.
The occasional power surge with map 5 had me wondering how harsh it would have been with the more aggressive map 2 curve.

I'll swap over to map 2 today and drive it for the next couple weeks. Will send you some feedback and logs.


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Default 04-13-2018, 07:31 AM

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will u do any updates for the BEF?

the pump flash works well on my EWG n55, but the RACE_7C i can't load it i see Drivetrain while flashing.
Sure we update them regularly. Not had any issues reported loading the EWG RACE BEF though.


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listed BEFs probably were never tested in real world. Otherwise author of them would know that e.g. JB4_F_PWG3_RACE_3B.bin speed limitation is set to 0km/h. How it looks? Car starts jerking just after you start to move
Is it true that the map above contains that "bug"?
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Default 04-14-2018, 05:44 AM

after i flash STG 0
where is the log BEF location ? ( on andriod )


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Default 04-14-2018, 07:17 AM

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after i flash STG 0
where is the log BEF location ? ( on andriod )
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Default 04-14-2018, 10:01 AM

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Default 04-14-2018, 11:23 AM

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Fix the fuel pressure with PI volume and I can help you fix the fuel trims after.
I added more fuel bias until I got rid of hpfp crashes at lower gears. Here's a pile of logs.
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Default Mhd flasher stating that unsupported DME while connected - 04-14-2018, 11:50 AM

Guys Iím new and need help with this issue.
My f30 335i has a different DME from the factory, I purchased the mppk when the car was built in Germany.

Mhd flasher is stating UNSUPPORTED DME 😩😩😩
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Default 04-14-2018, 01:07 PM

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Guys Iím new and need help with this issue.
My f30 335i has a different DME from the factory, I purchased the mppk when the car was built in Germany.

Mhd flasher is stating UNSUPPORTED DME 😩😩😩
I think MHD is still not supporting MPPK DME - They will in the future if thats the case you will have to wait


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Default 04-14-2018, 04:37 PM

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I added more fuel bias until I got rid of hpfp crashes at lower gears. Here's a pile of logs.
OK email me and I can send a modified BEF to get the scalars corrected. Remind me on E85 mix in the email too.


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Default 04-15-2018, 06:36 AM

Hello,

since the MHD Beta release at 11. April I'm on the way with my JB4 with BMS BEF (PWG1_RACE_1c.)
Power is so smooth and fun to drive, burble ist just amazing also. Map 1 feels the best to me. Amazing job guys!
A little negative side: last night a was abel to drive a little faster and make the pulls like 0-100 MPH - I got 2 times drivetrain errors No reduced power just error kicks in at 90 MPH when I'am in WOT without letting down the pedal...I made a quick MHD read out for DME codes, you can see them on the pic.
I made some pulls later, then no drivetrain error.

With JB4 Map 1 only (over a year since today, I never got this error when driving the car in the same way)
Today I'm able to make some logs with my JB4 and then post them here!
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Default 04-15-2018, 06:48 AM

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Hello,

since the MHD Beta release at 11. April I'm on the way with my JB4 with BMS BEF (PWG1_RACE_1c.)
Power is so smooth and fun to drive, burble ist just amazing also. Map 1 feels the best to me. Amazing job guys!
A little negative side: last night a was abel to drive a little faster and make the pulls like 0-100 MPH - I got 2 times drivetrain errors No reduced power just error kicks in at 90 MPH when I'am in WOT without letting down the pedal...I made a quick MHD read out for DME codes, you can see them on the pic.
I made some pulls later, then no drivetrain error.

With JB4 Map 1 only (over a year since today, I never got this error when driving the car in the same way)
Today I'm able to make some logs with my JB4 and then post them here!
Its good to post Logs, To Help BMS to identify your problem & Make updates to the BEF to Make it better.

Its not alot of us with PWG1 out there


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Default 04-15-2018, 10:18 AM

For you who run BMS bef stacked with JB4, what are the biggest ups with running that combo compared to just JB4?
I had a M135 last year with "just" JB4 and i thought that was mental with a properly set up map 6

Now im curious on what might have changed and in what way the bef could improve the drive.

Would it be possible to have a log on any map, with and without the bef to see what has changed?
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