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Default 05-17-2018, 06:10 AM

Hope everything is sorted out... before my F90 Comp shows up

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Hope everything is sorted out... before my F90 Comp shows up

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Haha nice!


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Default 05-17-2018, 10:48 AM

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Hope everything is sorted out... before my F90 Comp shows up

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Awesome!!!


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Default 05-17-2018, 09:24 PM

Took a few "stock" runs launching fairly hard, 1.8 60', 11.3@126. Not bad. Fuel is 91 octane with a can of Lucas octane booster mixed in. Hopefully with some more break in miles and a harder launch can get the stock times down a bit.


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Default 05-18-2018, 02:16 AM

I think the F90 can do a better launch. I noticed it launches much harder when you keep it boosted more than 2-3 seconds and the rear wheels start spinning after it stabilizes at 3k rpm. Attached is the run with G30 M550i jb4 91 oct
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Default 05-18-2018, 08:26 AM

I've just been brake boosting it. Anyone know if it has a formal launch mode?

Log from a stock 1/4 mile run. It tends to under boost from the factory.Also I noticed on several logs it randomly lowered it's target 2-3psi in 4th gear for no apparent reason.
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Default 05-18-2018, 08:34 AM

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I've just been brake boosting it. Anyone know if it has a formal launch mode?

Log from a stock 1/4 mile run. It tends to under boost from the factory.Also I noticed on several logs it randomly lowered it's target 2-3psi in 4th gear for no apparent reason.
It does but is not activated until the 1200 mile service is completed.

Are you holding the footbrake HARD and going wot until it settles around 2800 rpm then launching ? That should work until 1200.

Looks like the boost peaked similar to mine at 20.5psi.
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How does the formal launch mode on it work/activate?


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How does the formal launch mode on it work/activate?
I put everything in Sport Plus. Trans in Level 3. Then at a dead stop put the trans in Manual Mode (it will shift automatically even in Manual Mode from a dead stop and you HAVE to be in Manual mode to activate LC) Hard on the foot brake then wot. The Launch Mode Flags activate and you GO !
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Default 05-18-2018, 09:55 AM

Time to rack up some miles!


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Default 05-18-2018, 12:30 PM

Around 2psi over stock from this morning... I'll need to find a better track. But 3.3s 0-60 going up hill 2%+ is pretty strong I think for just brake boosting!
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Looks like you're having a lot of fun!


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Default 05-18-2018, 07:47 PM

You can also pull the Charcoal air filters out. Note the strange MAF sensors while you are doing that.

Are you going to offer a dry replacement filter ?
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You can also pull the Charcoal air filters out. Note the strange MAF sensors while you are doing that.

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Pulled those charcoal filters the other day. Couldn't find any MAF sensors anywhere. The gears are turning on intake ideas for it.


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Default 05-19-2018, 09:39 PM

Loaded the car up with 30% E85 just to collect some data.

On the stock tuning ran 11.18@126.7. Trims are moving up but not maxed out so AFR was unaffected. E30 is promising for stock to lower boost levels.

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Next up clicked over to a performance map I'm working on. It was under targeting on boost but still hitting around 3-4psi over stock. At this higher boost levels, combined with the 30% E85, fuel trims did max out, and AFR started to pitch lean specially in the lower gears. Not unexpected on E85 without fuel pressure control. Ran much quicker though at 10.88@132.14.

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Started work today on the fuel pressure connectors. Despite being fairly visible they are difficult to reach. I had to unscrew the fuel pressure sensor and shift the coolant res out of the way to access the drivers side. Only to find they are SENT technology sensors (like the new Audi). As luck would have it we recently released a SENT compatible board with enough analog channels to accomidate the F90. But I'm weighing the options right now as to whether it's worth incorporating them in to the F90 JB4 since they are a PITA to reach and that board is not as proven as the EWG board I'm evaluating now. Plus I think we can hit our power goals within the fueling limit without them using race gas rather than E85.

Anyway, lot's more work on boost control to do before I have to make that decision.


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+1 another shop got a similar 60-130 time on another forum, but I expect it go go mid-7s as well. Thing is moving for sure, and that's before mods lol
Best tuned so far 7.28, but it's early days. Easy 6s on good 93 octane fuel coming.


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6 mph 1/4 mile gain over stock already....NICE!!! I have 93 everywhere here in Orlando. Gonna be fun for sure ��
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I don’t have access to E either. 93 is everywhere! Sounds like a Stage 1 with 3-4psi would be pretty quick !

I thought the MAF deal was interesting too.
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Install won't be too bad on the basic JB4. TMAP connectors are easy to reach (30 seconds), one of the EWG connectors is up top (15 seconds), the other EWG connector you have to remove the driver side turbo inlet. But it's maybe a 5 minute job. Then the OBDII routing for CANbus another 5 min.


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Install won't be too bad on the basic JB4. TMAP connectors are easy to reach (30 seconds), one of the EWG connectors is up top (15 seconds), the other EWG connector you have to remove the driver side turbo inlet. But it's maybe a 5 minute job. Then the OBDII routing for CANbus another 5 min.
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Focused on tuning and product development right now. But when it's close enough I'll share some dyno data.


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