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Default 09-25-2017, 04:06 PM

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I'm a bit confused, maybe I'm reading it wrong.

I though with the larger nozzles number the more meth they will spray. So with more meth the trims should be better?
The trims are better and the ignition timing was corrected with dual cm10's
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Default 09-25-2017, 04:24 PM

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Run X98 instead of meth in the tank it will help significantly. Side question does 60 add feel faster than 40? Everytime I bump it up to 50 it doesn't feel any fast. I'm currently using a cm10 and cm5 I may try to put a 7 or another 10 in there. But if you make the switch from meth you'll be very pleased trust me
I had the same problem with dual cm7's. I was stuck on 40 meth additive cuz my trims and ignition timing wasn't too good. On cm10's 55-60 meth is beautiful and pulls like a beast. I'm boosting average 22psi across all gears! Will try x98 instead of meth but you might lose the cooling effect you gain from methanol...just a thought :-)
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Default 09-25-2017, 04:40 PM

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Do you have any track slips? What plugs are you running?
And also, I found it slower with the pure 1 on map 0 as compared to stock
Unfortunately no drag slips or dyno... none of that where I live.. we do it the old traditional way, butt Dyno and Drag racing. In the beginning I was quite skyptical about the gains at 40 meth add... you feel the power gains passed 50...

I'm using NGK 97506 2-Step Colder Spark Plug ... the ones sold on BMS applicable for the m4 as well I believe.

Yes map 0 on pure S1 is NOT quicker than stock 340i. I tested over 5 times with a friend, we are either identical or he's slightly ahead..
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Default 09-25-2017, 04:43 PM

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Unfortunately no drag slips or dyno... none of that where I live.. we do it the old traditional way, butt Dyno and Drag racing. In the beginning I was quite skyptical about the gains at 40 meth add... you feel the power gains passed 50...

I'm using NGK 97506 2-Step Colder Spark Plug ... the ones sold on BMS applicable for the m4 as well I believe.

Yes map 0 on pure S1 is NOT quicker than stock 340i. I tested over 5 times with a friend, we are either identical or he's slightly ahead..
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Default 09-25-2017, 05:16 PM

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Picture of a Log?
Trying sorry need to resize the pictures it won't let me upload the snapshots off my phone
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Default 09-25-2017, 07:18 PM

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Trying sorry need to resize the pictures it won't let me upload the snapshots off my phone
If you can show a legit log at 50-60 add I'll order another cm10 tomorrow lol
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Default 09-26-2017, 04:33 AM

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Is nobody waiting for Stage 2? It will cost more, but if you're driving a B58, money can't be that tight.
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Default 09-26-2017, 05:12 AM

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I will be seriously considering it
I am or big boost. It wasn't out for testing when I ordered stage one or I probably would have waited. For $1000 it's a nice improvement in real world use. I don't really car about HP numbers but I can beat cars that I had raced many times before and lost to or was dead even when in so to me that's worth it but eventually I'm going to want a bigger turbo. I'm actually leaning towards big boost just seams to have more potential but we'll see what pures results look like.
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Default 09-26-2017, 09:00 AM

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I am or big boost. It wasn't out for testing when I ordered stage one or I probably would have waited. For $1000 it's a nice improvement in real world use. I don't really car about HP numbers but I can beat cars that I had raced many times before and lost to or was dead even when in so to me that's worth it but eventually I'm going to want a bigger turbo. I'm actually leaning towards big boost just seams to have more potential but we'll see what pures results look like.
I would never consider big boost without direct port injection or without a flash tune..we're running 11:1 compression which super high..don't think it would be very wise handling this much boost and flow on our regular WMI kits. In my opinion once fuel it come out with a solution you will find pure announcing stage 2. I would wait :-)
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Default 09-26-2017, 09:29 AM

Pure stage 2 is likely less than 30 days out they're already doing testing. My friend just ordered the big boost kit same setup as me I'm going to drive it in about 2 weeks when it's installed
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Default 09-26-2017, 09:33 AM

For people that have done it themselves or asked the shop that did it, how many hours does the turbo swap take and what other parts need to be removed?


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Default 09-26-2017, 12:32 PM

Here are some logs for you guys.
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Default 09-26-2017, 01:23 PM

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For people that have done it themselves or asked the shop that did it, how many hours does the turbo swap take and what other parts need to be removed?
The process takes about 4-6 hours depending on how competent is your mechanic. You will need to remove the engine shield below and ******** for starters, then the air intake and charge pipe, disconnecting all sensors, harnesses, turbo water/oil fittings, etc. The good news is, nothing from below the engine bay needs to be removed. There's a good amount of space to have the turbo and manifold come out from the top which personally gave me some peace of mind.

The manifold is alittle tricky cuz some bolts are in relatively tight areas so you need to have the right tools to get in there. Besides all that, everything is pretty much straight forward. You will just need to make sure the manifold is well bolted on with no leaks to avoid redoing the process all over again to replace a bad gasket. You will also need to make sure the charge pipe is well in place and all your turbo fittings aren't leaking oil or water. Wouldn't be a bad idea to do a leak test once your all done to make sure everything is perfectly sealed.
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Default 09-28-2017, 02:49 AM

First off I looked at the first log looks pretty good man. I'm more visual with those then confirm the numbers so I usually like to see the chart but no throttle closures you're hitting 21+ psi and holding it AFR and trims look good. I may have to give it a shot...

Only thing that seemed off to me is your IATs go up during a run. Mine tend to drop 20+ degrees because of meth spray.

+1 on instal Time my mechanic does N54/55 stage 2 turbos all the time and he says B58 was easier than either and it was his first one. Just make sure your mech does a couple dry starts. From what I paid and a couple others 4-600$ seems fairly normal for pricing... I know it calls for like 8 book hours so some shops will quote rediculous pricing but don't do it.
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Default 11-21-2017, 12:25 AM

Hi guys, any advice for fitting?

I’m going to give it a go myself.
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Default 12-17-2017, 10:32 AM

Is there a pure Turbo Stage 2 for B58 available ?
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Default 12-17-2017, 11:10 AM

Apparently so, no results available though
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Default 12-17-2017, 11:31 AM

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Is there a pure Turbo Stage 2 for B58 available ?
Yep. A few sets have shipped out already


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Default 12-17-2017, 12:14 PM

only can find this https://www.n54tuning.com/pure-b58-s...o-upgrade.html
whats the diffrent to stage 1 ?
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Default 12-18-2017, 08:36 AM

Sorry if I missed it. Is this available for the new X3 M40i?


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Default 12-18-2017, 10:06 AM

Hey guys,

We have not officially released B58 Stg2, as we don't have results yet. We will be posting them in a new thread once we have all the details.

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Default 12-18-2017, 11:53 AM

It looks promising but damn we really need back end flash tools for the B58 to optimize the new larger turbos coming out.


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Default 12-18-2017, 01:30 PM

Terry, what are your thoughts of someone breaking into the ECU to unlock the fuel controls? Any time soon or hard to say? It would be amazing to drop E50 in this engine.


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Default 12-19-2017, 09:20 AM

I really have no idea on that, not heard anything is imminent though.


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Default 12-19-2017, 06:17 PM

Sad to hear, I wish tuning potential that is so close within reach could be unleashed. I want a 500+ WHP 340i without port injection!


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