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Default 04-16-2018, 05:04 PM

Seems like I'm still able to log even when running map 0. I'm assuming logs would be identical between running map 0 and 4?
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Default 04-16-2018, 07:27 PM

Yes


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Default 04-16-2018, 09:22 PM

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Seems like I'm still able to log even when running map 0. I'm assuming logs would be identical between running map 0 and 4?
Yes, I do it all the time. Haven't noticed any difference between the two.


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Thought so, thanks!
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Default 04-18-2018, 06:27 AM

The Install Guide, link on first page of this thread, is Aug 2016. There is a more current install guide from Nov 2017: http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...STALL_CARB.pdf

I haven't found any "official" bluetooth installation instructions from Burger Motorsports, just a few videos online. But just to confirm, the wire from the bluetooth module can connect to either of the red wires on the JB4 wire harness?
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Default 04-19-2018, 06:41 AM

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The Install Guide, link on first page of this thread, is Aug 2016. There is a more current install guide from Nov 2017: http://www.burgertuning.com/instruct...STALL_CARB.pdf

I haven't found any "official" bluetooth installation instructions from Burger Motorsports, just a few videos online. But just to confirm, the wire from the bluetooth module can connect to either of the red wires on the JB4 wire harness?
Yes. Both are power
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Default 04-19-2018, 05:44 PM

Probably a dumb question, but I'm assuming that I select rev3 on the app?
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B48/B58 JB4 Install Guide: Latest Install Guide

JB4 Windows Interface: Latest Interface Download. When updating your interface you may need to first go to "add remove programs" and "remove" your previous JB4 interface. The B58 JB4 is fully compatible with JB4 Mobile and the REV2 & REV3 blue tooth adapters!

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Map Guide as of v8 firmware:

Map0: Stock tuning, fully disable JB4
Map1: Additive map with peak of 3psi over stock added (91 octane)
Map2: Additive map with peak of 4psi over stock added (91-93 octane)
Map3: Additive map with peak of 6psi over stock added (93+ octane)
Map4: Stock tuning with CANbus features active
Map5: Additive map with peak of 6psi over stock added & more aggressive timing profile for higher octane fuel (experimental, 93+ octane, bolt on modifications)
Map6: Custom tuning map allowing both additive (below 10psi) and absolute (above 10psi) targeting
Map7: WMI map (boost varies based on WMI additive and map settings)


Firmware:

BMW_B48_B58_OBDII_9:

1) Redesigned CANbus logging engine for faster sample speed and all available parameters including cyl1-6 timing, water, oil, and trans temp, full time.
2) Corrected speedo calibration issue when using in dash menu.
3) Added FutureUseD Bit4 option to disable startup sweep.
4) Added in dash timing and AFR gauges under menu 2/3 and 2/4 respectively.
5) T2 - Fixed bug with fault code reading.
6) T4 - Fixed possible bug with alarm engaging.

BMW_B48_B58_OBDII_8:

1) Adjusted map numbering per above!
2) Removed intake temperature signal adjustment from map1. Option is now available for map6 or map7 using the 6cyl timing field. 0 disables it, value of 10 increases IAT sensor readings lowering timing, value of 70 decreases IAT sensor readings increasing timing. Adjustment active on maps 6 and 7 only. Experimental feature.
3) Adjusted additive maps so they can be used without OBDII cable

BMW_B48_B58_OBDII_7:

1) Added CANflap operation to allow control of the factory exhaust flapper from the drivers seat. Press the BC button for a second to change modes. Left arrow is flapper open full time, right arrow flapper in OEM operation which is generally closed unless at full throttle.
2) Internal CANbus changes to improve speed and operation.
3) Groundwork for virtual flex fuel sensor added. See E85 FAQ below.
4) Wastegate dutycycle offset for cars with modified exhaust that experience excessive throttle closure. When equipped with an EWG connector on the JB4 harness FutureUseA can be used to apply a static negative offset. Generally a value of 30 is a good starting point.


Default Settings:

Attachment 64379





'***************************************
'OBDII In Dash Menu
'***************************************

'0 map menu, map shown on tach
'1 Not currently used
'2 Boost gauge on fuel, scaling in dash is 0 to boost safety setting, turns on when gas pedal is pressed 50% or more and turns itself off when you resume low throttle use. (OFF tach = 0, ON tach = 1000)
'3 Not currently used
'4 Delete fault codes
'5 1st gear boost limiter, setting for gear boost limiters is RPM = boost * 200. e.g. 2000rpm = 10psi cap, 3000rpm = 15psi cap.
'6 2nd gear boost limiter
'7 3rd gear boost limiter

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Default 04-22-2018, 09:50 AM

Hi guys

I'm having issues attaching files. Can I possibly email someone just to review my logs on my M140i.

Thank you
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Default 04-22-2018, 10:12 AM

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Hi guys

I'm having issues attaching files. Can I possibly email someone just to review my logs on my M140i.

Thank you
PM sent.


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Default 04-22-2018, 12:22 PM

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PM sent.
Thanks bro. Mail sent
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Default 04-23-2018, 05:03 AM

Just updated to V9_T4... menu 5 set to 1 & voila the menus all align with metric values :D

tune still good & intact lol - although flap control is nonexistent with v9. Not that i mind at the moment cos I like having them open all the time :D :D :D
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Default 04-23-2018, 05:57 AM

My CANflap control is very intermittent now, too.


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Default 04-23-2018, 09:21 PM

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Did anyone come up with a good solution for the OBDII cable on a 6-speed manual? I don't want to run the wire outside and in the door like some have. Also don't want to risk damaging wires or anything else with a coat hangar.
If you get the confidence that you're dealing with the right hole, and confidence you're not going to mess up wires, it's actually pretty easy to execute. The trick is getting there mentally first.

So that said, it's hard to damage that thick clutch wire with a coat hanger so I don't think you need to worry about this. Getting the OBDII cable through that hole *is* difficult on manuals, but it can be done. I did this with a coat hanger, long screwdriver, and flashlight, in about 15 or 20 minutes, with no help. Here were my steps:

1) remove the footwell panel completely
2) go under the hood, locate the firewall hole (you can't miss it, it's got a thick clutch fluid cable in it) and use a coat hanger to push through and break the rubber seal
3) go under the footwell, and find your coat hanger. Hint: use a white hanger if you can, and use a flashlight, like maybe a head-mounted one. Smartphone flash LED works in a jiff.
4) use a long screwdriver or other similar long, firm rod instrument, and punch out some more rubber around the hanger. Carve out as much space as you can between the clutch wire and the edge of the firewall hole
5) grab the OBDII cable's molex end, and grease it with Vaseline. Yes, Vaseline. Grease the edge of the hole you're pushing through with Vaseline too. Or you can use the lubricating formula of your choice. This will save you lots of time and frustration and effort. Don't worry about wire connector cleanup. Vaseline comes off easily enough.
6) Push the molex end up through. It's hard to do but the lubrication helps, and remember, you cut out as much space for yourself as you could back in step 4.
7) Pull the molex through into your engine compartment. Clean off the Vaseline from the molex wire before connecting it to the JB4, using a paper towel or soft dry cloth (like a terry towel or polishing cloth).

This falls short of a true DIY because I don't have photos here. Let us know how you make out.

Good luck.


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Default 04-24-2018, 07:48 AM

I never thought about using lube on the car. Also I never thought I'd write that sentence. That being said, great idea!


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Default 04-24-2018, 05:11 PM

Hey guys! Could anybody take a look at my logs for my '18 M240i xDrive. Car feels a bit jerky/jumpy. Only mods are muffler and both resonator delete.

First file is map 1 and second is map 2. Also if anyone has any advice as to which is better for driving everyday that would be great. Looking for most reliable.
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Default 04-24-2018, 07:34 PM

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Hey guys! Could anybody take a look at my logs for my '18 M240i xDrive. Car feels a bit jerky/jumpy. Only mods are muffler and both resonator delete.

First file is map 1 and second is map 2. Also if anyone has any advice as to which is better for driving everyday that would be great. Looking for most reliable.
Your logs are mostly partial throttle. There are some throttle closures in those, if that's what you mean by jerky/bumpy. Otherwise they seem fine at full throttle.

If you want, you can try my Map 6 settings but you should install FF and EWG wires before doing so: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47581


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Default 04-25-2018, 06:56 AM

Thanks for posting, MasterYous, this is helpful.

Has anyone ever tried to connect to the two-wire canbus inside the engine compartment? I'm not totally sure if there is an and easy way, but it would make sense if an unused connection point is available.

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If you get the confidence that you're dealing with the right hole, and confidence you're not going to mess up wires, it's actually pretty easy to execute. The trick is getting there mentally first.

So that said, it's hard to damage that thick clutch wire with a coat hanger so I don't think you need to worry about this. Getting the OBDII cable through that hole *is* difficult on manuals, but it can be done. I did this with a coat hanger, long screwdriver, and flashlight, in about 15 or 20 minutes, with no help. Here were my steps:

1) remove the footwell panel completely
2) go under the hood, locate the firewall hole (you can't miss it, it's got a thick clutch fluid cable in it) and use a coat hanger to push through and break the rubber seal
3) go under the footwell, and find your coat hanger. Hint: use a white hanger if you can, and use a flashlight, like maybe a head-mounted one. Smartphone flash LED works in a jiff.
4) use a long screwdriver or other similar long, firm rod instrument, and punch out some more rubber around the hanger. Carve out as much space as you can between the clutch wire and the edge of the firewall hole
5) grab the OBDII cable's molex end, and grease it with Vaseline. Yes, Vaseline. Grease the edge of the hole you're pushing through with Vaseline too. Or you can use the lubricating formula of your choice. This will save you lots of time and frustration and effort. Don't worry about wire connector cleanup. Vaseline comes off easily enough.
6) Push the molex end up through. It's hard to do but the lubrication helps, and remember, you cut out as much space for yourself as you could back in step 4.
7) Pull the molex through into your engine compartment. Clean off the Vaseline from the molex wire before connecting it to the JB4, using a paper towel or soft dry cloth (like a terry towel or polishing cloth).

This falls short of a true DIY because I don't have photos here. Let us know how you make out.

Good luck.
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Default 04-29-2018, 05:47 PM

It easy very easy to connect the canbus wire. Do not go for the hydraulic hose opening. Look to the side for the 3 inch rubber plug in the firewall it guides the inside compartment rainbow wiring cable (3/4 inch diameter) to the engine. Look closely at the plug and you will see two indentations. Each will take the wire once cut by a simple rubber hole cutter 1/4 inch diameter. The rubber is thin and very flexible. Cuts easily. No lube no poking no coat hanger etc, no damage wires. Two minutes. Lol ��


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Default 04-29-2018, 08:30 PM

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Thanks for posting, MasterYous, this is helpful.

Has anyone ever tried to connect to the two-wire canbus inside the engine compartment? I'm not totally sure if there is an and easy way, but it would make sense if an unused connection point is available.
Just so we’re all sure what you’re asking: do you mean wire the JB4 directly to the car’s native CANbus wire under the hood, without using the OBDII molex adapter?

I have not ever considered this, maybe @Turboh was referring to something like that in his post, although it seems your idea would not require going through any firewalls since the work would all be under the hood. Good luck with that.


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Default 04-30-2018, 04:39 AM

I was thinking of keeping all of the wires under the hood and not penetrating the firewall. It would make sense if there was an open connector available under the hood.

I didn't spend too much time on this, though. I put my JB4 on the passenger side by the fuse box (left-hand drive). I ended up running a wire to the OBDII port by the driver, the wire goes through one of the two rubber plugs by the fuse box. Since the OBDII connector that came with the JB4 only had a 3 foot cable, I made my own cable with parts from ebay.
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Default 04-30-2018, 05:43 AM

Good deal. I did the same installation, but the supplied OBDII-to-molex was long enough in my case. I ran it horizontally under the cowls from driver to passenger, below the wiper assemblies. Different cars matter - my F23 likely is narrower than your car.


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Default 05-02-2018, 01:57 PM

Could someone take a look at these logs... very concerning. no other mods other than muffler and resonator delete. Jb4 Map 2 - 2018 m240i X Drive


During WOT (Locked in 5th gear) the AFR's are in the 14s and the ignition timing is 0? I have a limited understanding on the subject but from what I understand that means its knocking and pulling timing (Unless im reading this wrong or am uninformed which is likely)? Odd part is car is relatively smooth. Regardless this is all very concerning.
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Default 05-05-2018, 01:24 PM

hi people, I drive now 1 month map2 and would like to switch to map 3 now. Will install a ******** before and drive gasoline octane 10 .. can I drive with 102 oktan and ******** map 3 or I have to do something else
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Default Firmware questions - 05-09-2018, 12:04 PM

Hi all,

My latest firmware V9 has and FUD option bit6:disable FF rpm gain. What does it do?

Also, how does the FUA value work?

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