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This is the central point of contact for all 2018+ F90 JB4 related information. Anything from install directions, to firmware updates, to settings, to frequently asked questions. Any and all relevant info is linked in this post. If you come across something missing from here be sure to let us know.

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Map changes, datalogging, updates are done using the BMS data cable or the JB4 Mobile REV3 bluetooth kit.

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Map 0: Stock operation, JB4 disabled
Map 1: Default performance map, 2-3psi over stock
Map 2: 22psi absolute boost profile, 93 octane OK
Map 3: 25psi absolute boost profile, requires higher octane like unleaded racing fuel
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Default 03-28-2018, 08:06 PM

Can't wait for results..


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Default 03-28-2018, 10:12 PM

60-130mph and 100-200km/h run post by DME Tuning on stock car
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Default 03-29-2018, 09:00 AM

Really excited about this car. Hopefully there is more left in it.
That blue is super nice.


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Default 03-29-2018, 10:16 AM

Hey guys,

Mo @ DME Tuning sent over a fresh dyno from their new F90 M5 Development car. Overall, looks strong, although we're a little concerned with the AFR. We'll need to better evaluate that as we start to dial up boost. The platform is EWG based so I envision designing a new JB4 system for it with dual bank boost, fuel, and EWG control, at a minimum. Being so strong from the factory I wonder how much tuning potential they left for us. 700awhp would be amazing.

BMS has a car on order that is currently on the water, so probably a few weeks out. I was hoping to have it a few days before SS to rig up a tuner and race it but the timing is in question now. Will update the thread when we have it.

Should look nice in the garage next to our 775whp 2015 M5.
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Default 03-29-2018, 02:01 PM

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Hmm that 8.3 60-130 is slower than I'd expect at the power level and weight. Was expecting mid 7s. Maybe it will speed up as it breaks in.
+1 another shop got a similar 60-130 time on another forum, but I expect it go go mid-7s as well. Thing is moving for sure, and that's before mods lol
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Default 03-29-2018, 09:49 PM

Afr’s look like b58 afrs. Are they using new dme types or same as f10 m5?


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Default 03-30-2018, 06:10 AM

Great numbers stock !


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Default 03-30-2018, 09:02 AM

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Afrís look like b58 afrs. Are they using new dme types or same as f10 m5?
It's a new DME I have heard. I would think the AWD is cutting out some of that top end power that we have been enjoying in the F10/F13


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Default 03-30-2018, 02:07 PM

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Hey guys,

Mo @ DME Tuning sent over a fresh dyno from their new F90 M5 Development car. Overall, looks strong, although we're a little concerned with the AFR. We'll need to better evaluate that as we start to dial up boost. The platform is EWG based so I envision designing a new JB4 system for it with dual bank boost, fuel, and EWG control, at a minimum. Being so strong from the factory I wonder how much tuning potential they left for us. 700awhp would be amazing.

BMS has a car on order that is currently on the water, so probably a few weeks out. I was hoping to have it a few days before SS to rig up a tuner and race it but the timing is in question now. Will update the thread when we have it. Our development car is Marina Bay Blue, white interior, and M Drivers Package for the speed limiter change. MSRP with the gas guzzler tax and destination is $107,095.

Should look nice in the garage next to our 775whp 2015 M5.
Terry here's another AWD/RWD Mustang DYNO reference point;

https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1478756


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Default 04-01-2018, 08:13 PM

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60-130mph and 100-200km/h run post by DME Tuning
What app is that?
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Default 04-07-2018, 03:12 PM

Terry,
When your car arrives will it be run on the same dyno as the graph you posted for comparison?
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Default 04-07-2018, 03:33 PM

No, Mo is across the country.


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Default 04-07-2018, 04:19 PM

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No, Mo is across the country.
Gotcha! Just coming back to the BMW scene. The M5 will be my next vehicle. Can't wait to see what you can squeeze out of her.
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Gotcha! Just coming back to the BMW scene. The M5 will be my next vehicle. Can't wait to see what you can squeeze out of her.
the AFR of the new M5 about 15, i don't think it's safe to push more boost, need a flash
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Default 04-08-2018, 09:34 AM

Terry,

What are your thoughts on this.
https://youtu.be/Yxh4x9eEr-U
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Default 04-08-2018, 09:39 AM

I'm less interested with the dynos floating around and looking forward to some more 60-130 and 1/4 mile results. But seems like 600whp stock is plausible. And hopefully, 700whp JB4 tuned is doable. Would be enough for mid 10s in a well launching setup.


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Default 04-08-2018, 09:47 AM

Good, that is what I'm shooting for, a solid 10.5 DD. Eagerly looking forward to your test results.
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Can't wait for the tuning to begin. Whats the ETA on the test car?


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Default 04-09-2018, 08:51 AM

Looking like early May. Boat was delayed for some reason.

On the plus side, a special order was the only way to get no options but the speed limiter raised. So will be worth the wait.


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Default 04-14-2018, 11:19 AM

Jay Lane from Sewell BMW in TX posted this time slip on FB today. WannaGofast Half mile event. Impressive!!
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Default 04-14-2018, 11:38 AM

Not bad for a stock car in the 1/2 mile. Hopefully with mods, 165mph+


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Default 04-14-2018, 01:31 PM

Updated time 155.7094mph. That’s amazing for stock in my opinion. You can see the other slips by looking at his FB page.
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Updated time 155.7094mph. Thatís amazing for stock in my opinion. You can see the other slips by looking at his FB page.
the link?
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