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Default VW Stage1 Firmware & Updates - 11-02-2015, 09:49 AM

*** WARNING *** The firmware and map guide below applies to the Stage1 system only. NOT the JB4 system. Uploading Stage1 firmware to the JB4 will likely require you to mail the JB4 control board back in to be reflashed. Don't upload Stage1 firmware to your JB4 system.

This thread is for VW Stage1 Firmware Updates and Map Notes

The same BMS DATA to USB cable is used for all of our tunes and strongly suggested for free software updates and new features as we post them. The Stage1 tune uses the JB4 interface.

Interface: Latest Interface Download. When updating your interface you may need to first go to "add remove programs" and "remove" your previous interface.

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Map 0: Stock bypass. Stage1 fully disabled
Map 1: 4.8psi over stock, adjustable by changing "boost safety" setting on user adjustment tab.
Map 3: Progressive methanol mapping
Map 6: Custom tuning map entered on user adjustment tab.

Firmware: v4

1) Changed processor speed from 8mhz to 64mhz and increased the sampling rate of the analog I/O 4x. This seemed to have improved the idle stability in some models.
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Default 11-02-2015, 10:03 AM

Any possibility this could be available for the Tiguan ?

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Any possibility this could be available for the Tiguan ?

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Relative to which motor. We are planning to develop more units relative to the demand we get.


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Default 11-02-2015, 12:29 PM

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Relative to which motor. We are planning to develop more units relative to the demand we get.
If I am not mistaking, all 2009-2015 Tiguans in North America use the Gen 2 EA888

I own a 2013.
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If I am not mistaking, all 2009-2015 Tiguans in North America use the Gen 2 EA888

I own a 2013.
Will look into it, its the 200hp version.


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Default 11-02-2015, 12:59 PM

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Will look into it, its the 200hp version.
This would be a big plus for ppl in my situation that still have a lot of warranty left VS a flash tune
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Default 11-02-2015, 08:32 PM

This is awesome that the firmware have its place now!! :D

Question though, what made you run the IC at 8mhz instead of 64 from the get go? Power is not an issue - I always push for the max rating of the chip, though 64 is probably not the max the chip can handle. I should open up the box to see what part it is :p i guess timing was easier on a slower clock? I really wish to mess around with the code. Could I sign an Nda? :p
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Default 11-02-2015, 08:46 PM

I always run them as at the minimum speed to meet the sampling rates required. In this case we raised analog sampling from 200hz to 800hz which justified speeding up the processor.


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Default 11-12-2015, 04:53 PM

Is this firmware newer than the stage1_64_2.hex file?
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Default 11-12-2015, 05:10 PM

Probably same.


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Is this firmware newer than the stage1_64_2.hex file?
Load the firmware rather then we know everyone is on the same page.


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Default 11-16-2015, 02:22 AM

I assume this firmware can be applied to either the R or GTI boxes?
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I assume this firmware can be applied to either the R or GTI boxes?
Yes it is for both.


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Probably same.
Sure doesn't feel the same. Can you check to make sure they're 100% identical?
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Default 11-17-2015, 09:56 AM

None of the firmware will have any tuning differences. It's all back end stuff. If you need tuning help you'd email logs to George.

But what we always tell customers who claim an previous firmware ran better for them is, run whatever you want.


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Default 11-17-2015, 10:08 AM

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Sure doesn't feel the same. Can you check to make sure they're 100% identical?
I have run them both back to back and identical boost profile on both. What difference do you see or feel?


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I have run them both back to back and identical boost profile on both. What difference do you see or feel?
Not taking about boost profiles. The other firmware has a much smoother idle for me. Not sure why. That's why I asked about the differences between the two.
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If you log it we can verify what speed the processor is running at from the CSV file.


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If you log it we can verify what speed the processor is running at from the CSV file.
I've attached the hex file that yields the smoothest idle for me.
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It's the same as the firmware in the first post. 64mhz.


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It's the same as the firmware in the first post. 64mhz.
Yes, I knew that the sampling was the same given the file name. Wondering if there are any differences that could explain the smoother idle. I'm only able to use Map 1 with the firmware because Map 6 is disabled but it's worth it for the smoothness.
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The files are identical, so must be a red herring.
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The files are identical, so must be a red herring.
That's odd because Map 6 doesn't work in the file that I uploaded but works fine in the one posted here.

From George: "There is logging capability on it but we haven't opened map 6 yet on it."
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That's odd because Map 6 doesn't work in the file that I uploaded but works fine in the one posted here.

From George: "There is logging capability on it but we haven't opened map 6 yet on it."
Map 6 may work but its untested on the hex file you got. Let hear from Terry.


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Map 6 may work but its untested on the hex file you got. Let hear from Terry.
I didn't even try it on my file. I just ran Map 1 and was running Map 6 on the new file posted here. Can't imagine there would be any idle differences between the maps on a given firmware.
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